Brock has diverticulitis again,JDS vs Carwin at UFC 131 now. - Page 3

Primenal · 05-13-2011, 02:50 PM

I feel sorry for Brock (even though he's been a dick in the past at times). I also feel sorry for the guys who say UFC HW's are the best currently....Cuz they use JDS and Cain as reasoning as why it's the best. JDS gets knocked out (by the guy who was beaten by Brock) and everyone will say "he wasn't proven," & "who did he fight?" & "overraed"
If Fedor can dominate heavies for 10 years without a loss, loses one fight and people ask these questions then JDS will get crapped on after he loses to "No gas tank" Carwin.

I do like SF heavies a lot more, but I disagree with all that. Carwin has to be one of the biggest punchers in the history of MMA seriously, and that's why he's knocking JDS out. JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance (as tons of people on this very forum argue, and I can't understand how beating Nelson & old Nog make this argument). If JDS wins though, and survives Carwin then I'd give him some props for this fight.

greathamza · 05-13-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Primenal

I feel sorry for Brock (even though he's been a dick in the past at times). I also feel sorry for the guys who say UFC HW's are the best currently....Cuz they use JDS and Cain as reasoning as why it's the best. JDS gets knocked out (by the guy who was beaten by Brock) and everyone will say "he wasn't proven," & "who did he fight?" & "overraed"
If Fedor can dominate heavies for 10 years without a loss, loses one fight and people ask these questions then JDS will get crapped on after he loses to "No gas tank" Carwin.

I do like SF heavies a lot more, but I disagree with all that. Carwin has to be one of the biggest punchers in the history of MMA seriously, and that's why he's knocking JDS out. JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance (as tons of people on this very forum argue, and I can't understand how beating Nelson & old Nog make this argument). If JDS wins though, and survives Carwin then I'd give him some props for this fight.

in terms of accomplishment JDS has done more than carwin therefore JDS is more proven than carwin.

both beat gonzaga
JDS beat:
Roy nelson
Cropcop (even tho he is shot)
Werdum who was a top contender atm and still is

JDS has 2 KO of the night while carwin has only 1

05-13-2011, 04:36 PM

Good news. There are going to be fireworks

Stoo · 05-13-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by greathamza

in terms of accomplishment JDS has done more than carwin therefore JDS is more proven than carwin.

both beat gonzaga
JDS beat:
Roy nelson
Cropcop (even tho he is shot)
Werdum who was a top contender atm and still is

JDS has 2 KO of the night while carwin has only 1

Google search ftw!

Ai-edy2007 · 05-13-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Primenal

I feel sorry for Brock (even though he's been a dick in the past at times). I also feel sorry for the guys who say UFC HW's are the best currently....Cuz they use JDS and Cain as reasoning as why it's the best. JDS gets knocked out (by the guy who was beaten by Brock) and everyone will say "he wasn't proven," & "who did he fight?" & "overraed"
If Fedor can dominate heavies for 10 years without a loss, loses one fight and people ask these questions then JDS will get crapped on after he loses to "No gas tank" Carwin.

I do like SF heavies a lot more, but I disagree with all that. Carwin has to be one of the biggest punchers in the history of MMA seriously, and that's why he's knocking JDS out. JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance (as tons of people on this very forum argue, and I can't understand how beating Nelson & old Nog make this argument). If JDS wins though, and survives Carwin then I'd give him some props for this fight.

FUCK BRO PROPS thats exactly how i feel in my opinion the best hws in order are
1) Overeem
2) Velasquez
3) Carwin
4) Jds
5) Brock
i believe also that carwin will knock jds out but carwin vs overeem is what i wanna see its will be the battle of "THE ENGINEER'S AWESOME 5XL GLOVE SUPER PUNCHES VS THE UBERKNEE'S OF THE DEMOLITION MAN OVEREEM!!

Primate · 05-13-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Primenal

JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance

Overeem has done fuck all at HW in MMA.

Ai-edy2007 · 05-13-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Primate

Overeem has done fuck all at HW in MMA.

dude your acting like a zuffa zombie he's k1 champ which you can infer to him as having fucking amazing striking for mma and is the dream champ bet old bum ass todd duffee and is strikeforce champ. Just wait till he wins the hw grand prix, overeem is a roided up cunt who has amazing one punch, knee k.o.'s so if you can name one other fighter who has accomplished more than 3 belts in different orgs and is mma name them.

Stoo · 05-13-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai-edy2007

dude your acting like a zuffa zombie he's k1 champ which you can infer to him as having fucking amazing striking for mma and is the dream champ bet old bum ass todd duffee and is strikeforce champ. Just wait till he wins the hw grand prix, overeem is a roided up cunt who has amazing one punch, knee k.o.'s so if you can name one other fighter who has accomplished more than 3 belts in different orgs and is mma name them.

If you count a UFC Tourney belt then Dan Henderson's. Overeems belts in MMA mean fuck all

EL BULLY · 05-13-2011, 08:09 PM

Great fight. I pick JDS because he can move, but this is a great fight and I can see it going either way.

Ai-edy2007 · 05-13-2011, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoo

If you count a UFC Tourney belt then Dan Henderson's. Overeems belts in MMA mean fuck all

hmm true but i think overeem would dispose most of the hw's in UFC the exceptions are
1) velasquez
2) Carwin
In my opinion overeem would destroy jds

Beouche · 05-14-2011, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ai-edy2007

hmm true but i think overeem would dispose most of the hw's in UFC the exceptions are
1) velasquez
2) Carwin
In my opinion overeem would destroy jds

Overeem would destroy anyone in MMA. JDS or Cain gives him the hardest fight, but he still makes short work of either. He's going to dominate like Anderson

edit - Barnett Overeem will be interesting

Ai-edy2007 · 05-14-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Beouche

Overeem would destroy anyone in MMA. JDS or Cain gives him the hardest fight, but he still makes short work of either. He's going to dominate like Anderson

edit - Barnett Overeem will be interesting

hahah yea it will be the battle of the roid users.

Primate · 05-14-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai-edy2007

dude your acting like a zuffa zombie he's k1 champ which you can infer to him as having fucking amazing striking for mma and is the dream champ bet old bum ass todd duffee and is strikeforce champ. Just wait till he wins the hw grand prix, overeem is a roided up cunt who has amazing one punch, knee k.o.'s so if you can name one other fighter who has accomplished more than 3 belts in different orgs and is mma name them.

Who did he beat for the strikforce belt? Paul Buentello. And how many times has he defended in the past 4 years? Once. Against Brett Rogers. And he beat Todd Duffee for his Dream belt. Wow.
Every person he's beaten at heavy weight, except two has either been in the middle of a massive losing streak, or retired soon after or both.

K-1 is not MMA, Overeem may well take out the whole grand prix, and after that I'll change my tune, but until then he has done fuck all at HW in MMA.

Ai-edy2007 · 05-14-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Primate

Who did he beat for the strikforce belt? Paul Buentello. And how many times has he defended in the past 4 years? Once. Against Brett Rogers. And he beat Todd Duffee for his Dream belt. Wow.
Every person he's beaten at heavy weight, except two has either been in the middle of a massive losing streak, or retired soon after or both.

K-1 is not MMA, Overeem may well take out the whole grand prix, and after that I'll change my tune, but until then he has done fuck all at HW in MMA.

hahaha just and wait and see overeem will clean the hw grand prix out easy.

Primate · 05-14-2011, 11:00 PM

Maybe. He has already lost to Werdum, and is 1-1 to Sergei (his last loss).
If he does take out the GP then he certainly has a case as the #1 heavy weight, but until then he's no where near it.

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Primenal Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,294 vCash: 1000	Re: Brock has diverticulitis again,JDS vs Carwin at UFC 131 now. I feel sorry for Brock (even though he's been a dick in the past at times). I also feel sorry for the guys who say UFC HW's are the best currently....Cuz they use JDS and Cain as reasoning as why it's the best. JDS gets knocked out (by the guy who was beaten by Brock) and everyone will say "he wasn't proven," & "who did he fight?" & "overraed" If Fedor can dominate heavies for 10 years without a loss, loses one fight and people ask these questions then JDS will get crapped on after he loses to "No gas tank" Carwin. I do like SF heavies a lot more, but I disagree with all that. Carwin has to be one of the biggest punchers in the history of MMA seriously, and that's why he's knocking JDS out. JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance (as tons of people on this very forum argue, and I can't understand how beating Nelson & old Nog make this argument). If JDS wins though, and survives Carwin then I'd give him some props for this fight.
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Primate Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,448 vCash: 500	Re: Brock has diverticulitis again,JDS vs Carwin at UFC 131 now. Maybe. He has already lost to Werdum, and is 1-1 to Sergei (his last loss). If he does take out the GP then he certainly has a case as the #1 heavy weight, but until then he's no where near it.
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