Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao?

DobyZhee · 05-15-2011, 04:20 PM

Well, both their opponents had their weaknesses. Both fighters are considered p4p top fighters. Both pitched shutouts..

well?

gobblock · 05-15-2011, 04:29 PM

Ward. He fought a live opponent who actually had something at stake. Pac fought an old, tired PPV minor leaguer.

Mr. Sandman · 05-15-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gobblock

Ward. He fought a live opponent who actually had something at stake. Pac fought an old, tired PPV minor leaguer.

A live opponent that throws 9 punches a round?

Beenie · 05-15-2011, 04:48 PM

If Mosley fought the way AA did then he would have gotten knocked out. Pac successfully removed the fighting spirit out of Mosley and thus offered up the better performance, imo.

IntentionalButt · 05-15-2011, 04:54 PM

Obviously Ward.

Don't use Mosley's negativity and movement as an excuse. Abraham's turtle shell and low workrate and unwillingness to engage on the inside in most rounds made him just as unwilling a target.

The opponents' performances cancel each other out.

Ward is in his prime; Pacquiao is well past his. Their respective performances reflected that.

compukiller · 05-15-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Beenie

If Mosley fought the way AA did then he would have gotten knocked out. Pac successfully removed the fighting spirit out of Mosley and thus offered up the better performance, imo.

The fact that Mosley was close to 40 and had not won a fight in over 2 years had nothing to do with it, I suppose?

Beenie · 05-15-2011, 05:37 PM

Even with a retreating unengaged opponent, Pac still managed to score a kd and landed the harder and more punishing shots than Ward did against a guy who stood in front of him for 12 rounds.

The lack of combination punching by Ward also doesn't help his cause, imv.

Mr. Sandman · 05-15-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by compukiller

The fact that Mosley was close to 40 and had not won a fight in over 2 years had nothing to do with it, I suppose?

Abraham's only "notable" win at 168 is over a shot to pieces Jermain Taylor who was 1-3 in his previous 4 fights, losing two of them by KO?

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DobyZhee ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 41,097 vCash: 928	Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao? Well, both their opponents had their weaknesses. Both fighters are considered p4p top fighters. Both pitched shutouts.. well?
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gobblock Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,077 vCash: 75	Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao? Ward. He fought a live opponent who actually had something at stake. Pac fought an old, tired PPV minor leaguer.
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Beenie Evolve already! East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: On the path to Desire > Fear Posts: 9,885 vCash: 1389	Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao? If Mosley fought the way AA did then he would have gotten knocked out. Pac successfully removed the fighting spirit out of Mosley and thus offered up the better performance, imo.
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IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,321 vCash: 0	Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao? Obviously Ward. Don't use Mosley's negativity and movement as an excuse. Abraham's turtle shell and low workrate and unwillingness to engage on the inside in most rounds made him just as unwilling a target. The opponents' performances cancel each other out. Ward is in his prime; Pacquiao is well past his. Their respective performances reflected that.
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05-15-2011, 05:37 PM	#7
Beenie Evolve already! East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: On the path to Desire > Fear Posts: 9,885 vCash: 1389	Re: Who put on the more masterful performance: Andre Ward or Manny Pacquiao? Even with a retreating unengaged opponent, Pac still managed to score a kd and landed the harder and more punishing shots than Ward did against a guy who stood in front of him for 12 rounds. The lack of combination punching by Ward also doesn't help his cause, imv.
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