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Old 12-23-2007, 01:07 PM   #1
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Floyd Mayweather Jr., the world's No. 1 boxer, is strongly considering a revolutionary jump to mixed martial arts under a deal being discussed with Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban.
Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser and best friend, told ESPN.com Friday night that the five-division world champion, who generated 3.25 million pay-per-view buys and more than $200 million in revenue in two megafights in 2007, came away from a Thursday meeting with Cuban giving serious thought to taking his game and considerable drawing power to MMA.

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"It's definitely something he is interested in, and when Floyd makes his move, obviously it's going to be a mega event," Ellerbe said. "We don't have a timetable. Floyd is taking some time off, but Floyd understands what is involved. You have to take time to go out and understand what you're getting involved in, and he's ready to do that. But it's something he's definitely interested in doing.
"Mark Cuban is a very successful businessman and has some very, very successful business ventures that we've discussed. We're looking to do a lot of business with Mark. He's a great guy, and we had a great meeting. Doing an MMA event with him is most definitely something we are looking at, among many things we are looking at doing with Mark Cuban."
Mayweather's interest in participating in an MMA event was sparked after he struck up a friendship with Cuban during their participation this season as contestants on the ABC reality series "Dancing with the Stars."
Cuban was Mayweather's guest at the fight and even carried two of his championship belts into the ring before he knocked out England's Ricky Hatton to retain the welterweight world championship Dec. 8 in Las Vegas.
Mayweather and Cuban were together again Thursday in Las Vegas, where they met to discuss various business ventures, including Mayweather's participation in an MMA event.
A few boxers, such as former heavyweight contenders Ray Mercer and Frans Botha, have attempted to compete in mixed martial arts, but with little success. Mayweather's entrance would bring it to another level, especially at a time when the sports have been pitted against each other by fans and media -- MMA as the hotshot newcomer trying to overtake the century-old, more traditional sweet science.
One of Cuban's many business interests is ownership of HDNet Fights, a fledgling mixed martial arts promotional company that airs its bouts on Cuban's HDNet. Cuban promoted his second event Dec. 15 in Dallas.
"Floyd is considering fighting with HDNet Fights," Cuban told ESPN.com. "We are going to let him visit some gyms to talk to some folks about what it would take to learn. He knows it won't be easy. But he is getting involved with MMA and HDNet Fights one way or another. He is pumped about it. He wants to go on to the next big thing. Floyd is a brilliant marketer. He follows the money."
Indeed, Mayweather, like Cuban, knows how to make money. Mayweather, 30, won the year's two biggest fights, a decision against Oscar De La Hoya in May in a fight that shattered all boxing revenue records and a 10th-round knockout of Hatton that did 850,000 buys and $47 million in television revenue on HBO PPV.
Mayweather-De La Hoya, with 2.4 million buys, set the all-time PPV record. Mayweather-Hatton was the biggest PPV fight in history not involving De La Hoya or heavyweights Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield.
Mayweather earned about $50 million for the two fights.
"If I said there's a guaranteed $30 million payday, Floyd would be lacing them up," Cuban said, optimistic that Mayweather would participate in an MMA match eventually. "If not, I could see him working to train and develop and invest in MMA fighters, knowing the upside. He can teach them how to be a better boxer and add to their other skills."
After each of his past three fights, Mayweather has talked about retirement, or at least an extended break. Ellerbe said that Mayweather is on vacation now but that when he returns, they'll discuss the prospect of an MMA bout in more detail.
"Floyd is about taking on challenges," Ellerbe said. "This ain't some kind of prank. That is one of many things we've talked about with Mark. Floyd would have to take time to really understand it, but it is most definitely something he is interested in."
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:08 PM   #2
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Maybe someone form MMA should come over and fight the best in whatever division.
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Old 12-23-2007, 02:24 PM   #3
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heh I was just about to start a thread with that same article. I have got to say Marc Cuban is a beast when it comes to business. If there is any a CEO who could schmooze pretty boy to fight MMA its him. All Marc has to do is garuntee floyd somwhere around 50 - 60mil for a MMA fight, which would not be hard to do if they are getting 1 millions buys or more now without someone like floyd. I can see a MMA card with floyd doing around 2 million buys. I mean everyone from MMA is buying it because they want their guy to 'prove' (I know its all bullshit, but it is a general mindset of a MMA fan) who the better 'fighter' is. All of us boxing fans are gonna buy it because we wanna see if floyd can actually use his boxing skills to completly nullify a MMA's grapple game. I would actually love to see this cause i am a fan of both. I still think boxing is the superior sport however. On a side note, I believe MMA will become better as time goes on. All the popularity it is getting will mean more younger guys will train and genereally bring the skillset of the fighters up, thus providing more entertainging shows. Once the MMA gets super-elite grapplers and strikers, it is going to be badass.
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I think his stand up game would be the best in MMA but I don't know about the rest
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Mayweather has a nasty berimbolo guard
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:51 AM   #6
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It will never happen.
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:30 PM   #8
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I think his stand up game would be the best in MMA but I don't know about the rest
I don't agree, MMA stand up and boxing stand up is ALOT different and why? Because pushing, shoving, holding, etc are LEGAL in MMA. Thus they become PART of STAND UP. Floyd is master of a CRAFT whereby one must push, shove, hold etc in a clever way to BEND the RULEs. That cleverness is not RELATIVE in MMA stand up. Look how awesome James Toney's stand up was and look at how that TRANSLATED into the MMA cage ???

Anyone in a boxing ring that HOLDs, PUSHs, SHOVEs etc etc, unfairly is going to get a POINT deducted. Anyone in MMA that HOLDs, PUSHs, SHOVEs etc another fighter successfully is going to take that fighter off balance and take ADVANTAGE of that OFF balance.

So how do I think Floyd would do overall in MMA ?

Probably pretty good to a certain level and then I see Floyd getting CREAMED after that certain level well before ever reaching the top levels of MMA.

I think Floyd is one of the BEST pound for pound boxers of all time, certainly in need of mention. I think that great MMA strikers would have as much success switching to boxing as Floyd would have switching to MMA. So I am not a BOXING hater or MMA lover only. Love them both.

I am just saying that IMO Floyd will NEVER switch SERIOUSLY, he may DABBLE but he will NOT SWITCH as I said IMO. If he does not go after the biggest challenges in boxing why would he go after the biggest challenges in MMA ? It makes no SENSE to me and IMO is a METHOD via witch Floyd uses to EGO-fy himself. By leaving this QUESTION open Floyd boxing greatness gets considered as potentially being good enough to out class MMA fighters in the cage by all the arm chair FANs that simply JUDGE how awesome Floyds hand speed and boxing ability are witch CONFUSEs the hell out of the arm chair fan so to speak and rightly so as Floyd's boxing ability is remarkable love him or hate him.

Now if Floyd would of trained MMA from a wee lad I don't doubt that he could of been a AWESOME MMA fighter, I am not saying he would of been, lol, I am just saying that his BOXING ABILITYs and overall athletic ability would of TRANSLATED really well into MMA ability as well, BUT, that would ONLY come from YEARs of progressions both on the feet and the ground and everywhere in between. Floyd cant LEARN that in a few years at his age, BOXERs switching to MMA will get sore backs, bones and muscles in places they never knew they had before. Some of those ACHEs and PAINs just cant be OVERCOME if starting brand new at a ADVANCED age. Why? The reason they get ACHEs and PAINs everywhere is because all the CONDUCTOR muscles have never been TRAINED in the way they need to be trained while TUSSLING off balance for position either standing up or on the ground. When I say TRAINED I don't just mean with RESISTENCE I mean with FLEXIBILITY witch is RAPIDLY lost with AGE. Thus after great long hard sparring sessions Floyd [[ or any dude switching to MMA late ]] is going to go home and have trouble getting outta bed the next day. Sure he will get out of bed the next day, all I am saying is he wont keep following through on that day after day before he says, "**** THAT!!" ,,
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I don't agree, MMA stand up and boxing stand up is ALOT different and why? Because pushing, shoving, holding, etc are LEGAL in MMA. Thus they become PART of STAND UP. Floyd is master of a CRAFT whereby one must push, shove, hold etc in a clever way to BEND the RULEs. That cleverness is not RELATIVE in MMA stand up. Look how awesome James Toney's stand up was and look at how that TRANSLATED into the MMA cage ???

Anyone in a boxing ring that HOLDs, PUSHs, SHOVEs etc etc, unfairly is going to get a POINT deducted. Anyone in MMA that HOLDs, PUSHs, SHOVEs etc another fighter successfully is going to take that fighter off balance and take ADVANTAGE of that OFF balance.

So how do I think Floyd would do overall in MMA ?

Probably pretty good to a certain level and then I see Floyd getting CREAMED after that certain level well before ever reaching the top levels of MMA.

I think Floyd is one of the BEST pound for pound boxers of all time, certainly in need of mention. I think that great MMA strikers would have as much success switching to boxing as Floyd would have switching to MMA. So I am not a BOXING hater or MMA lover only. Love them both.

I am just saying that IMO Floyd will NEVER switch SERIOUSLY, he may DABBLE but he will NOT SWITCH as I said IMO. If he does not go after the biggest challenges in boxing why would he go after the biggest challenges in MMA ? It makes no SENSE to me and IMO is a METHOD via witch Floyd uses to EGO-fy himself. By leaving this QUESTION open Floyd boxing greatness gets considered as potentially being good enough to out class MMA fighters in the cage by all the arm chair FANs that simply JUDGE how awesome Floyds hand speed and boxing ability are witch CONFUSEs the hell out of the arm chair fan so to speak and rightly so as Floyd's boxing ability is remarkable love him or hate him.

Now if Floyd would of trained MMA from a wee lad I don't doubt that he could of been a AWESOME MMA fighter, I am not saying he would of been, lol, I am just saying that his BOXING ABILITYs and overall athletic ability would of TRANSLATED really well into MMA ability as well, BUT, that would ONLY come from YEARs of progressions both on the feet and the ground and everywhere in between. Floyd cant LEARN that in a few years at his age, BOXERs switching to MMA will get sore backs, bones and muscles in places they never knew they had before. Some of those ACHEs and PAINs just cant be OVERCOME if starting brand new at a ADVANCED age. Why? The reason they get ACHEs and PAINs everywhere is because all the CONDUCTOR muscles have never been TRAINED in the way they need to be trained while TUSSLING off balance for position either standing up or on the ground. When I say TRAINED I don't just mean with RESISTENCE I mean with FLEXIBILITY witch is RAPIDLY lost with AGE. Thus after great long hard sparring sessions Floyd [[ or any dude switching to MMA late ]] is going to go home and have trouble getting outta bed the next day. Sure he will get out of bed the next day, all I am saying is he wont keep following through on that day after day before he says, "**** THAT!!" ,,
you just got trolled by a thread from 2007
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