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Old 12-20-2007, 09:07 AM   #31
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I will check. Maybe I am thinking of Savon. Does the link for Stevenson tally up 22 losses?
Yes.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:37 PM   #32
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Then I got my S's mixed up!
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:54 PM   #33
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Check out his right hand, i have never seen anything like it since louis and tyson victims. when stevenson hits his opponents, they drop like they been shot. They do a delayed reaction on jelly legs. its unbelievable the power he possesed in his right hand. he threw it straight and fast too.

Stevenson with his size 6'4 220lb, amazing power, punching skills, great jab, athleticism, polished boxing skills would have been the next ATG heavyweight. he would have been larry holmes nightmare with that right hand.

Stevenson would have tore into those talented 1980s Alpha champs like he did to big john tate.
Terrifc one punch power ,but limited infighting skills ,his left was often just a range finder,similar to Ingos,he dropped quite a few decisions ,,didnt like pressure ,and I think might have been a good "on top fighter" I have a feeling ,just a feeling he didnt have to much ,bottom, to use an old fashioned word ,I see him as an improved version of that other Cuban Gonzlaez,and have my doubts he would have made that big a splash in the pro pond.
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Old 12-21-2007, 04:27 PM   #34
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Terrifc one punch power ,but limited infighting skills ,his left was often just a range finder,similar to Ingos,he dropped quite a few decisions ,,didnt like pressure ,and I think might have been a good "on top fighter" I have a feeling ,just a feeling he didnt have to much ,bottom, to use an old fashioned word ,I see him as an improved version of that other Cuban Gonzlaez,and have my doubts he would have made that big a splash in the pro pond.
As it was, Jimmy Clark and Michael Dokes gave him all he could handle.

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As it was, Jimmy Clark and Michael Dokes gave him all he could handle.
I remember he had problems with Doke,s hand speed.
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:16 PM   #36
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I remember he had problems with Doke,s hand speed.
If I remember correctly, Tubbs also lasted with him.
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Old 12-22-2007, 11:15 AM   #37
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If I remember correctly, Tubbs also lasted with him.
Dokes and Tubbs lasted three rounds and lost unanimous decisions.
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Old 12-23-2007, 04:10 AM   #38
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Ali said he could have lost to Stevenson if they had fought.
Ali used to say a lot of things which he himself disproved.

But Stevenson was great. That does not mean he would have ruled the heavyweights. But he would have been a top pro - at least.
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:13 PM   #39
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Didn't Angel Milian beat him also?
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Stevenson amateur record was something like 302-22! Holmes had but 22 or so amateur fights ( 19-3? ), so an early TKO loss when he was 185 pounds to Nick Wells can't be viewed in the same vein. Boxing can be a hard sport to the in-experienced and undersized. As Holmes matured, he proved he had a great chin and amazing recuperation powers.

Stevenson was vunerable to good swarmers with top end power. Russian amatuer star Igor Vystrosky was a balls to the wall two - fisted bomber with paper thin skin. Vystrosky put Stevenson down for the count once, and defeated Stevenson in a second match where Stevenson looked imtimidated.

Who prior to Tyson (when Stevenson would have been well past his best) fits that description from the mid-1970's to the mid-1980's.

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i am so sick of hearing that larry losing to my father shouldnt be considered.larry i believe was 19-0 going into the first fight in 72 with my dad.then later that year to him again.nick wells dealt larry holmes his first two losses ever.not only that,my dad was 215pds.another thing yall keep talking like larry was soooooo inexpierenced when they fought.he went pro like 2 fights later.and yes larry changed a bit due to his superior managment,but my father and his trainer winky groom sat down and tried to work a deal with don king but he didnt want larry to fight someone that larry was afraid to fight.it wouldve been a mega payday for bothsides.
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