Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Other > MMA Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-23-2007, 12:04 PM   #1
Dostoevsky
Hardcore......to the max!
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The Kingdom of Fife, Scotland.
Posts: 2,848
vCash: 1000
Default What REALLY happened to Pride

Heres the in depth story about why Pride fell through and all the trials and tribulations that the management went through.

This is a very BIG post.

http://www.fightopinion.com/2007/12/21/my-personal-outlook-on-the-japanese-mma-scene/#more-1897

My personal outlook on the Japanese MMA scene

By Zach Arnold | December 21, 2007 | Print This



For the last couple of months, I’ve stayed relatively quiet in terms of talking about the Japanese MMA scene and how things are lining up. For starters, I’m bored with a lot of it. Secondly, I don’t see a lot of positives right now.

Here is my breakdown of how the political landscape in Japan is shaping up and what you should be paying close attention to.

The power brokers and matchmakers

Dave Meltzer recently wrote an article on Yahoo profiling the tradition of MMA on NYE in Japan. There were a few bloggers who were shocked, stunned, surprise, or whatever adjective you want to use to learn about how Fedor ended up working for the Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 event (instead of the PRIDE event that same night).

If you read through out our site archives (which contains a ton of information from start to finish about how the yakuza scandal occurred), you probably already know the story. Start reading by using these links (here, here, here, and here).

However, let me give you a more detailed account of what exactly happened (based on my personal knowledge and years of talking to people inside the Japanese MMA business).

Antonio Inoki had ran a disastrous event called “Legends” on 8/8/02 at the Tokyo Dome for Nippon TV. Akira Fukuzawa, long-time All Japan Pro-Wrestling play-by-play man, did the PBP call for the event. (This is the event where Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira destroyed Sanae Kikuta and Kikuta ended up doing a stretcher job.) It was a disastrous event because the main event was Naoya Ogawa vs. Matt Ghaffari. The show did terrible numbers at the gate and was a black mark for Inoki. Inoki’s power source, old-time Japanese entertainment business mogul Tatsuo Kawamura, was the backer of this project and every other project known to man since then for The Big Chin. Kawamura owns one of Japan’s largest entertainment companies, K-Dash, and Ogawa has always been closely tied to Kawamura.

You have to understand what the power structure of the Japanese MMA business was in 2002. You had K-1 and PRIDE working together. As we’ve learned in the last couple of years, the power structures of the two groups were as follows: K-1 had Kazuyoshi Ishii as the boss, with Ken Imai and Nobuaki Kakuda in secondary roles along with admitted yakuza-fixer Seiya Kawamata and Daisuke Teraguchi, who helped out with foreign business. PRIDE’s backers consisted of Hiromichi Momose (the guy at the early PRIDE events in black glasses and a ballcap who always marked out for fighters at ringside after the fights were over), along with underlings of Naoto Morishita and Nobuyuki Sakakibara. Nobuhiko Takada has always been a front man (a spokesperson) rather than someone with major power in the group. Momose followed Takada after the end of UWF-International and the start of PRIDE in 1997 under the KRS banner. The power base for PRIDE was in Nagoya, which is where Morishita and Sakakibara came from.

Mixed in with all of this were the major agents. Motoko Uchida, who was Akira Maeda’s secretary when he ran the RINGS promotion, ended up being a power broker for the Brazilian Top Team in Japan. The rumor (for a long time in Japan) was that Uchida was backed heavily by Tatsuo Kawamura (the same guy backing Inoki and supposedly Kawamata). Koichi “Booker K” Kawasaki was the power broker for Chute Boxe Academy in Japan. Australian-born Miro Mijatovic was the super-agent to be, as he was really the most powerful gaijin agent at the time in Japan (managing both Fedor and Mirko Cro Cop, along with fighters in Fedor’s camp). Mijatovic had made his living in Japan for many years as a contract lawyer and had deals in place with star athletes like famous swimmer Ian Thorpe for business in Japan. Mijatovic worked alongside Bas Boon, who is very close to Golden Glory. Mr. Kokubo, the man who is behind J-ROCK, is the backer of fighters like Hidehiko Yoshida, Kazuhiro Nakamura, etc. J-ROCK is now backing the new World Victory Road project.

The events that shook up the Japanese MMA scene forever

For those of you who have followed the PRIDE yakuza scandal since day one, none of this information is new. However, if you’re a newcomer, here is a synopsis of what took place.

K-1, PRIDE, and Inoki cooperated with each other on a big show (produced by K-1) called Dynamite on August 28th, 2002 at Kokuritsu (National) Stadium in Tokyo. The stadium was meant to be used for soccer, so the amount of production equipment and portable toilets needed to be installed to execute this show was monstrous. The show drew a huge crowd of over 70,000 (legitimately paid), even though 91,000 was the claimed attendance. After this event, things started to fall apart.

Since NYE of 2000, all the parties had been cooperating with each other for events (2000 was a SkyPerfecTV PPV at the Osaka Dome, 2001-2002 was at Saitama super Arena taped for Tokyo Broadcasting System). However, the factions started feuding with each other after two important incidents.

There had been rumors that K-1 was undergoing some tax problems. Kazuyoshi Ishii was paying out a lot of money to foreign fighters and had also desparately wanted to sign Mike Tyson. Ishii ended up getting busted in December of 2002 in a raid by the Tokyo tax bureau. There were allegations that a contract for Mike Tyson was forged in order to divert money, that fighters were being paid under the table, and that evidence of such acts were intentionally destroyed. Ishii ended up going to jail, along with a mysterious Bangladesh man who was arrested in another country and was sentenced for making phony contracts for Ishii. Ken Imai was rumored to be close to Ishii on business deals at the time, but he was never charged or convicted of any crimes. Imai ended up leaving the K-1 power structure.

Sadaharu Tanigawa, a former pro-wrestling and MMA writer, took over for Ishii. He created FEG as his umbrella group to run operations.


Dostoevsky is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 12-23-2007, 12:05 PM   #2
Dostoevsky
Hardcore......to the max!
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The Kingdom of Fife, Scotland.
Posts: 2,848
vCash: 1000
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Part 2

There was talk that the costs involved in the Dynamite show were so expensive that it ended up costing more than previously thought of. At the time, Sakakibara had his own production company (called Ubon) that helped out in matters. Morishita, the PRIDE boss, was preparing for an announcement in January of 2003 at the Hilton hotel in Tokyo to announce a Grand Prix tournament format. After Morishita talked about the format in a press conference, he was found dead in his hotel room (hanging in the shower).

Sakakibara told the press that Morishita was having problems with a mistress (Morishita was married) and that he would eventually take over PRIDE. An important question was raised (that would be mentioned over and over again for the next several years) — if Morishita had a stake in PRIDE ownership, wouldn’t his shares in the company (Dream Stage Entertainment) go to his widow?

The question was never answered. Hiromichi Momose ended up fading away from the background of PRIDE and Sakakibara became entrenched in the company. His main management allies included Sotaro Shinoda and Hiroyuki Kato, with Daisuke Sato (now formerly of Fuji TV) playing a major role as both a production wizard and image consultant. At this point, it was uncertain who was backing Sakakibara or if he was running on his own (Shukan Gendai would later claim that Sakakibara was backed by a former Osaka-based loan shark named Mr. I aka Mr. Ishizaka aka Kim Dok-Soo, an alleged yakuza of Korean blood).

Once Sakakibara took over the PRIDE operation, all of his various companies became connected to the project (Ubon for production, plus a ticket distribution company as Akira Maeda cryptically referred to several months ago in an online post). Things started to fall apart between K-1 and PRIDE, and the two powers would eventually go after each other with separate MMA events on NYE in 2003 (PRIDE with Fuji TV at Saitama Super Arena, K-1 with Tokyo Broadcasting System at the Osaka Dome). The odd people out of the equation were Inoki’s crew (Inoki, Kawamata, Kawamura). Eventually, Nippon TV got into the NYE MMA act and signed Kawamata to a multi-year deal where he would be the producer of Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye MMA events in Japan. Inoki’s image and likeness would be used for promoting, but Kawamata was the point man.

One of the high-profile matches that Kawamata wanted for the Inoki show was Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Mirko Cro Cop. Mirko was represented by Miro Mijatovic and it seemed inevitable that the match would get booked. However, a couple of weeks before the Inoki MMA event, Cro Cop backed out of the fight due to what he claimed was a back injury. Soon after Cro Cop backed out of the show, he left Mijatovic and signed with Ken Imai. A couple of days after the NYE MMA events, Cro Cop (through Imai) had a ‘letter’ published in Sankei Sports claiming that Mijatovic couldn’t book him vs. Fedor and that he wanted better representation. Sources close to Mijatovic believed that Imai acted as a wirepuller for Sakakibara and signed Mirko away from Mijatovic. A rumor would surface years later that Mirko Cro Cop was offered $300,000 USD for the jump, but neither Gendai nor Kanagawa police officials (more on this later in the article) would comment on the claim.

Instead of Takayama vs. Cro Cop, Takayama ended up appearing at the Inoki show as a TV commentator. Kawamata ended up booking Josh Barnett vs. Semmy Schilt and Fedor vs. Yuji Nagata (New Japan Pro-Wrestling). Sakakibara was furious that Fedor was booked for the Inoki event and claimed that it violated his PRIDE contract.

However, Mijatovic ended up booking Fedor for the Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye event. How was this done? At the time of the booking, Fedor (along with his brother and other fighters) worked in PRIDE as representatives of the Russian Top Team. DSE’s deal with Mijatovic was for RTT talent. So, Vadim Finkelstein (and Apy Ectheld) ended up forming the Red Devil fight club. Fedor, his brother, and other Russian stars were now property of Red Devil and not with RTT any longer. Therefore, Mijatovic legally could make the booking of Fedor because he was no longer a member of RTT and DSE only had an arrangement with RTT.

Fedor ended up destroying Nagata on the Inoki show. The show, in terms of business, was a disaster. Mijatovic was not paid for the fighters he booked (through Bas Boon and Golden Glory) and ended up paying out of his own pocket. He claimed that Kawamata ripped him off and would soon file a lawsuit against him. After the disastrous Inoki event at Kobe Wing Stadium, Nippon TV terminated its contract with Kawamata. The network claimed that Kawamata didn’t live up to the terms of the deal, so Kawamata sued Nippon TV in court. Mijatovic filed a lawsuit against Kawamata in Tokyo District Court in order to obtain a lien on any winnings Kawamata earned in court against Nippon TV. The court ruled against Kawamata in his case against Nippon TV and Mijatovic ended up with no money (even though he won his separate lawsuit case in court and was deemed as a credible witness.)
Dostoevsky is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 12:07 PM   #3
Dostoevsky
Hardcore......to the max!
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: The Kingdom of Fife, Scotland.
Posts: 2,848
vCash: 1000
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Part 3
Meanwhile, Kawamata was having his own troubles before and after the Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye show. According to Kawamata in Shukan Gendai magazine, he was allegedly receiving threats from DSE yakuza for booking Fedor. After the Inoki show, Kawamata was summoned to a building in Shizuoka where he was threatened for blackmail money — by his own yakuza gang members, who turned on him and supposedly were friendly now to DSE. Kawamata ended up leaving Japan and there were some angry people.

According to Shukan Gendai, Mijatovic was summoned to a hotel room meeting where a gun was allegedly pointed to his head and was warned about crossing DSE. Mijatovic’s relationship with Red Devil started to deterioriate as Sakakibara and PRIDE started to get closer to Vadim and Fedor. Eventually, Mijatovic left the MMA business and focused his business activities on Japan’s lucrative love hotel sector (raising capital to buy properties and renovate depressed areas).

Kawamata’s revenge

Seiya Kawamata launched a multi-pronged attack against DSE. He filed a police complaint in 2005 with the Kanagawa Police, claiming that alleged yakuza members connected to DSE threatened him. He helped cooperate with Kodansha, the publisher of Shukan Gendai, for a multi-month negative campaign against DSE. The magazine campaign built up so much public pressure on Fuji TV (which was having a stockholder’s meeting to address Livedoor’s attempt at a hostile takeover of their company) that the network dropped DSE programming despite the large ratings it attracted.

The Kanagawa Police investigation into Kawamata’s claims went unresolved because they couldn’t track down Mr. I (aka Mr. Ishizaka aka Kim-Dok Soo), who rumoredly fled to South Korea at the time of the investigation.

With PRIDE finished and Kazuyoshi Ishii sitting in a jail cell, the MMA scene became weakened in Japan. Almost scorched earth, in fact. There are strong rumors now that Seiya Kawamata is back in Japan and is making some big political decisions impacting the NYE scene this year for MMA. (Hence why there seems to be cooperation between the Yarennoka and K-1 MMA events.)

Personally, a story I found fascinating is a report in Japan that Kawamata supposedly has a stake or interest in FC management, the supposed company backing and representing Brandon Vera. The story got no traction whatsoever in the US MMA blogosphere, which surprises me given that Kawamata is an admitted yakuza fixer.

It should be noted that the Yarennoka event will likely do lackluster business (since it is only on SkyPerfecTV PPV and not on free-to-air TV). Good benchmarks for the show (in my estimation) would be 30,000 PPV buys and 10,000 paid tickets sold. Anything over those benchmarks is gravy. My personal opinion is to expect some papering of tickets for the DSE event in Saitama. (Same for their Hustle afternoon event).

There is not much appeal at all for the Yarennoka event in Japan. It is scarily quiet this year in terms of NYE MMA activity, certainly by a longshot when compared to previous years. I personally have zero interest in the DSE event and very little interest in the K-1 event, which is personally shocking to me (I’m actually interested in watching the UFC 79 event).

The intriguing part about the DSE event on 12/31 is that more people in America may be watching the event on HDNet than people paying to see it in Japan on SkyPerfecTV. Completely unfathomable if you’ve been a fan of the NYE MMA events in Japan since 2000.

If you’re curious as to how HDNet got the rights for the DSE event, I can only come up with one guess (it is conjecture) as to how it happened. HDNet ended up making a deal with M-1 Global for the TV rights from SkyPerfecTV. In past dealings between PRIDE and Vadim Finkelstein (of M-1), the Russians were given the TV rights to PRIDE events and they turned around to distribute the footage in other TV markets. So, it’s totally not out of the question that the same deal happened here (Vadim and M-1 got the TV rights, M-1 Global flipped them around and made a deal with HDNet).

The direction of MMA in Japan for 2008

With Seiya Kawamata supposedly back in action in Japan, expect the unexpected. He likes to make big splashes and big moves, but it’s usually always short-term business. It will probably be a more interesting year in terms of politics than it will be in terms of fight quality.

Caleb at MMA Predictions unwittingly gave away the main event for the World Victory Road 3/5 Tokyo, Yoyogi National Stadium Gym I event (which is being negotiated as Hidehiko Yoshida vs. Roger Gracie).

I expect to see a ton of mid-range shows in Japan for 2008, with a very mixed success rate (2 out of every 3 shows will probably be money losers or minor failures). I don’t expect great things at all coming out of Japan and with UFC expanding its schedule for more shows, expect to see more Japanese talent make its way to foreign soil and to make a pitch to get into WEC.


[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Takada and other Pride officials at a ceremony. Note heavily tattooed Yakuza's behind them.
Dostoevsky is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 03:17 PM   #4
Lostmykeys
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 443
vCash: 2036
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Summary?
Lostmykeys is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 03:47 PM   #5
ufoalf
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 3,441
vCash: 1550
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostmykeys
Summary?
Sakakibara got owned by Yakuza.
ufoalf is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 10:20 PM   #6
Beebs
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,121
vCash: 1493
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Quote:
Originally Posted by ufoalf
Sakakibara got owned by Yakuza.
Seemed more like Sakakibara used Yakuza to threaten people, one got pissed and started an investigation.
Beebs is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2007, 11:33 PM   #7
ufoalf
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 3,441
vCash: 1550
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beebs
Seemed more like Sakakibara used Yakuza to threaten people, one got pissed and started an investigation.
I didn't actually read it :P. Not in the mood right now.
ufoalf is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2007, 02:09 AM   #8
Koa
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Da Bafroom brah!
Posts: 2,192
vCash: 75
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Used Yakuza to blackmail, extort people into taking dives.. This means gambling setups, Yakuza have a long history of that type of thing. Very shameful.
Koa is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2007, 07:17 AM   #9
scurlaruntings
ESB 2002 Club
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: By any means necessary
Posts: 17,818
vCash: 1000
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

So did the Mafia from the 20`s to the 60`s when boxing was completely mainstream.
scurlaruntings is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2007, 11:14 PM   #10
ajc1984
Journeyman
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 89
vCash: 1000
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Quote:
Originally Posted by ufoalf
I didn't actually read it :P. Not in the mood right now.
Zach Arnold has been writing and re-writing the same "Japanese MMA is responsible for all of the evils in the world" article every week for years now. If you've read any of the others, then you've read this one, and if you haven't, well go find one of the thousands of condensed versions on his site.

Basically it's the ramblings of an embittered pro wrestling fan on a morale crusade to stamp out the injustice of MMA in Japan, but he's quite well informed and knows his stuff (even if there's a massively negative spin on all of it), so as long as you can put up with what a tedious, pretentious cunt he is, it's a decent read, I suppose.
ajc1984 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2007, 07:18 PM   #11
Donut62
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 727
vCash: 1000
Default Re: What REALLY happened to Pride

Zach Arnold is a pretentious douche bag, and has made a name for himself by wrtiing this same ****ing article since 2006 every week and crying about pro wrestling = mma.
Donut62 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Other > MMA Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013