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Old 06-01-2011, 12:48 PM   #46
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denial is a *****
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:49 PM   #47
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I took some PEDS got hit by a car going 90 mph, got up and just walked away
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:50 PM   #48
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So whats he taking then Andre, he says he knows people close to Victor so he knows exactly what he is taking but he doesn't say. What a load of bull, being a fairly new Boxing fan I didn't know much about Andre but now I have an opinion on him...
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:51 PM   #49
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HAHAHAHAHA. Ohh my gosh! I thought Ortiz always had a good chin.
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:52 PM   #50
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I took some PEDS got hit by a car going 90 mph, got up and just walked away
lmao
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:56 PM   #51
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Good post, I completely agree. Floyd has paved the way for this...
There is just no where to draw the line for this. Why are these guys on twitter, facebook, and youtube??? If they really feel this way shouldn't they be working with the commission to express their concerns and try to make a positive change.

Since this whole PED controversy scandal, or whatever it is. There has only been negative feedback for boxers and fans of the sport and pretty much anyone involved. Why do you want to hurt something instead of making it better?

These guys need to man up and give credit where it's due.. If a man shows up in great condition and is just a better fighter than you, accept it..
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:56 PM   #52
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That was lame Berto.
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:57 PM   #53
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HAHAHAHAHA. Ohh my gosh! I thought Ortiz always had a good chin.
Yea it was decent... It's been his heart everyone questions...

What kind of PED's do you take for courage? Oh yea A-side Meff
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:58 PM   #54
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Berto should have beaten Ortiz. But he underestimated him and thought it would be an easy night.Ortiz fought like a fighter with nothing to lose.
Ehhh, whoever wins deserves to win, and SHOULD win. Its pretty cut and dry. Just because one fighter may have better physical attributes or skills than the other doesnt make that fighter deserving the win prior to the fight. This fight was this case. Your second statement confirms this.

One shortcoming with Berto is that he can be outworked, and THAT happened. And it may be because he has to pace himself because of stamina issues. Wont be the first OR the last case for fighters who may be a little over-muscled for their weightclass, ie - Authur Abraham & Jean Pascal
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:02 PM   #55
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Berto - What a joke
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:02 PM   #56
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Hasn't Ortiz consistently been coming in 17 to 18 heavier? What I thought was weird, is that Floyd Sr. was saying he thinks Ortiz is a clean fighter, even though he sparred with Pac for awhile and 'learned something', and that he thinks his son should fight Ortiz, if he passes the pre fight test.

Weird how he's so sure Pac is on Gear/EPO, but thinks Ortiz is probably natural, Ortiz looked like a complete beast... since he wants to protect his son from this danger, I would think he would be skeptical of Ortiz as well...
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:04 PM   #57
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thank Mayweather for this....
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:06 PM   #58
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This is good news for the sport. Hopefully more extra testing will be implemented to stop the cheats that think they can get away with it.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:11 PM   #59
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What a gob****e
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:12 PM   #60
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Hasn't Ortiz consistently been coming in 17 to 18 heavier? What I thought was weird, is that Floyd Sr. was saying he thinks Ortiz is a clean fighter, even though he sparred with Pac for awhile and 'learned something', and that he thinks his son should fight Ortiz, if he passes the pre fight test.

Weird how he's so sure Pac is on Gear/EPO, but thinks Ortiz is probably natural, Ortiz looked like a complete beast... since he wants to protect his son from this danger, I would think he would be skeptical of Ortiz as well...
Ortiz ate a heavy dose of right hands from both Peterson and Berto, that's why.
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