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Old 07-31-2014, 04:56 PM   #31
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Yeah & both Armstrong & Jones were humiliated & kicked out of the sport
as they should be. But boxing totally ignore the positive tests of Shane Mosely, Roy Jones jr Vitali Klitschko etc Why are they still in the sport and are even Hall of Fame shoo ins
I do not know if Manny Paquaio or Floyd Mayweather jr have used PED's so I cannot condemn either.Butof the two Id suspect Floyd more
They're not humiliated and kicked out of the sport because we as fans (or at least a majority of) don't want them to be. That's nothing to do with the testing agencies. They did their job and caught out Mosley & co.

The fact their careers weren't over afterwards is the rest of boxing's fault.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:09 PM   #32
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Pac's been quiet since he got KTFO. These days he's fighting the likes of Algieri.
pac just beat top3 p4p at ww.

theftjr got ****d by a handicapped bum.

worse, choketime got ****d too but chose to keep silent.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:22 PM   #33
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with that line of logic..pac should have taken the tests years ago to "kill the rumor"....
Not comparable. The whole point of Pac not taking blood test days before the fight was that it weakened him, we know this isn't an excuse he came up with on the spot because there is an interview of him years before blaming his loss to Morales to a blood test just before the fight. To prove he is clean he agreed to random testing 21 days before the fight, immediately after the fight and unlimited urine testing - not something someone would agree to if they are trying to duck a test.

On the other hand, releasing the test results does not harm to Floyd whatsoever, its not gonna weaken him in the ring, it'll just prove his innocence.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:36 PM   #34
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but it is comparable..you guys want Floyd to prove his innocence by subjecting him to something he doesn't have to do . Same thing with Pac. I never thought he was juicing BUT some wants him to prove his innocence by subjecting him to something he doesn't have/want to do.

and we are to believe that USADA would hound Armstrong (a white hero at the time) and hang him to dry but they'd let Floyd off the hook? it doesn't add up.

and once again, if any of it is true, major sports news outlets would be all over it and not just some random guy that wrote an article stating he knows for a fact that Floyd failed 3x without mentioning a source. (holy run on sentence batman)
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:36 PM   #35
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Not comparable. The whole point of Pac not taking blood test days before the fight was that it weakened him, we know this isn't an excuse he came up with on the spot because there is an interview of him years before blaming his loss to Morales to a blood test just before the fight. To prove he is clean he agreed to random testing 21 days before the fight, immediately after the fight and unlimited urine testing - not something someone would agree to if they are trying to duck a test.

On the other hand, releasing the test results does not harm to Floyd whatsoever, its not gonna weaken him in the ring, it'll just prove his innocence.
You realize the first excuse Pacquiao had for the Morales loss was his gloves and the blood excuse came later. Agreeing to random drug test with the condition they can only test you 2/3 times and you have to know exactly when there coming is something someone on PEDs would say.

Pac's lawyers didn't ask for his USADA records they asked for his entire medical history that's way more invasive than a drug test, how does suing and never drug testing prove your clean. I don't think Pac is necessarily on PEDs but how do people buy him as clean on the basis of never drug testing except for vs Rios yet the guy who was on record as recently as before the Maidana fight saying he undergoes year round testing is dirty.

The only fight Pac is on record drug testing for is Rios in that same time he's had 4 fights (including his upcoming bout) in places that either don't do testing at all (Clottey, Margarito) or does the very little if any testing at all (Rios, Algeri). He turned down testing request in every other fight not mentioned since 09.
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Source or STF..
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:01 PM   #37
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but it is comparable..you guys want Floyd to prove his innocence by subjecting him to something he doesn't have to do . Same thing with Pac. I never thought he was juicing BUT some wants him to prove his innocence by subjecting him to something he doesn't have/want to do.

and we are to believe that USADA would hound Armstrong (a white hero at the time) and hang him to dry but they'd let Floyd off the hook? it doesn't add up.

and once again, if any of it is true, major sports news outlets would be all over it and not just some random guy that wrote an article stating he knows for a fact that Floyd failed 3x without mentioning a source. (holy run on sentence batman)
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You realize the first excuse Pacquiao had for the Morales loss was his gloves and the blood excuse came later. Agreeing to random drug test with the condition they can only test you 2/3 times and you have to know exactly when there coming is something someone on PEDs would say.

Pac's lawyers didn't ask for his USADA records they asked for his entire medical history that's way more invasive than a drug test, how does suing and never drug testing prove your clean. I don't think Pac is necessarily on PEDs but how do people buy him as clean on the basis of never drug testing except for vs Rios yet the guy who was on record as recently as before the Maidana fight saying he undergoes year round testing is dirty.

The only fight Pac is on record drug testing for is Rios in that same time he's had 4 fights (including his upcoming bout) in places that either don't do testing at all (Clottey, Margarito) or does the very little if any testing at all (Rios, Algeri). He turned down testing request in every other fight not mentioned since 09.
And this.
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pac just beat top3 p4p at ww.

theftjr got ****d by a handicapped bum.

worse, choketime got ****d too but chose to keep silent.
Who had Bradley as top 3 p4p? I didn't. The only case people could make for that would be if you legitimately thought Timmy beat Pac the first time. I assume you don't think that and if you do you 're wrong.
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:52 PM   #39
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They're not humiliated and kicked out of the sport because we as fans (or at least a majority of) don't want them to be. That's nothing to do with the testing agencies. They did their job and caught out Mosley & co.

The fact their careers weren't over afterwards is the rest of boxing's fault.
They were caught but not PUNISHED!! When drug abusers are being inducted into the Hall of Fame instead of being banned from the sport shows how far boxing has sunk. So you admire Peds abusers huh Sugar ?? Jeez
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Not comparable. The whole point of Pac not taking blood test days before the fight was that it weakened him, we know this isn't an excuse he came up with on the spot because there is an interview of him years before blaming his loss to Morales to a blood test just before the fight. To prove he is clean he agreed to random testing 21 days before the fight, immediately after the fight and unlimited urine testing - not something someone would agree to if they are trying to duck a test.

On the other hand, releasing the test results does not harm to Floyd whatsoever, its not gonna weaken him in the ring, it'll just prove his innocence.
21 day cutoff! That's agreeing to tests in Pac****s' eyes.
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They were caught but not PUNISHED!! When drug abusers are being inducted into the Hall of Fame instead of being banned from the sport shows how far boxing has sunk. So you admire Peds abusers huh Sugar ?? Jeez
Have you lost the plot mate? At no point did I condone PED use and I think it should be accompanied by a lifetime ban from the sport.

What I was saying is that the testing agencies are doing their job. They are catching people and the fact that nothing happens to them afterwards is not their fault.

The organisations in charge need to enforce lifetime band for cheats and we as fans need to support them in this. Sadly the majority don't.

People continued to pay to watch Marg and can you imagine the out try if Toney, RJJ, Holyfield and Vitali weren't allowed in the HOF? There is simply I appetite from the fans to clean up the sport.

You can't rely on Floyd's brain dead fans as they'd support PED use if jr. Changed his mind and said it was all good to juice. Boxing is in the dark ages.
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