Who hits harder - Vitali or Haye?

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Daruf

How does a injury have anything to do with not good enough?
Cuts happen to everybody, its just part of the sport.

Lewis won and won legit but to suggest Vitali was not good enough? thats just plain ignorance.
Anyone can get cut.

Vitali was obviously not good enough to defend his own face. There wasn't just one serious cut, just one serious enough to get the fight stopped.

[DOM5153]

Originally Posted by Daruf

How does a injury have anything to do with not good enough?
Cuts happen to everybody, its just part of the sport.

Lewis won and won legit but to suggest Vitali was not good enough? thats just plain ignorance.
Anyone can get cut.

He lost, he wasnt good enough, apologies if that sounds ignorant but im responding to an ignorant post. The cut happened because he was getting punched in the face, Lewis had a slow start and was beginning to take over the bout. If he was good enough he would have won, Lewis looked terrible during that fight yet Vitali still couldnt win. Vitali fought well for the first few rounds no doubt.

[eagleskins]

Haye is the softest HW fighter in a long time. Guy would get beat by any of the top 10

[Daruf]

Originally Posted by DOM5153

He lost, he wasnt good enough, apologies if that sounds ignorant but im responding to an ignorant post. The cut happened because he was getting punched in the face, Lewis had a slow start and was beginning to take over the bout. If he was good enough he would have won, Lewis looked terrible during that fight yet Vitali still couldnt win. Vitali fought well for the first few rounds no doubt.

Sorry thats just retarded logic.... ANYONE can get cut.... its just something random.
You can't predict it, you cant purposely cause it... it just happens just like other freak injuries happen.

Lewis won and won legit but to suggest either fighter wasn't good enough is just stupid.
Im not saying Lewis was not good enough because he was behind on rounds, which would be the same dumb logic.

There are fighters who take WAY more punishment and never get cut... but i guess they are better?
I hope you understand how stupid that sounds.

[tezel8764]

If Vitali's defence was so good he wouldn't never gotten cut up, the onus is on him not the other way around.

[Daruf]

Originally Posted by tezel8764

If Vitali's defence was so good he wouldn't never gotten cut up, the onus is on him not the other way around.

Every fighter gets hit, every fighter can get cut... especially from grazing punches.
Stop being retarded.

[dyna]

Originally Posted by Daruf

How does a injury have anything to do with not good enough?
Cuts happen to everybody, its just part of the sport.

Lewis won and won legit but to suggest Vitali was not good enough? thats just plain ignorance.
Anyone can get cut.

Vitali has a very low left hand, no coincidence only the left side of his face became a pizza.

[dyna]

Vitali has a very good defence that works extremely well against opponents with a sizeable reach disadvantage which happens to be almost anyone, and generally opponents as big aren't close as athletic but when he does have to face a man who is as athletic and rangy his defence is suddenly a lot less good.
It's mainly his low left hand and defence based on leaning back that puts him at a disadvantage against big athletic men.

His defence works against almost anyone but not when your opponent is as big and athletic as Lennox Lewis.

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