Bernard Hopkins vs. James Toney now, at LHW

[whopperdong]

Originally Posted by UnleashtheFURY

Toney is one of the most overrated guys ever, in terms of legacy and ATG he isn't anywhere near Hopkins..... Toney will be remembered forever as a blown up MW/SMW that beat an over the hill Holyfield and a few journeyman at HW. His resume at MW/SMW is a joke.

[benebox]

I could see this being a very close fight. I would watch.

[elmaldito]

Hopkins beats toney anytime at any weight

[FAT_TONEY]

A boxer combining the qualities of James Toney and Bernard Hopkins would be the ultimate fighter.
Just imagine: the talent, natural skills and not at least chin of a James Toney combined with the focus, discipline and ring smartness of Bernard Hopkins - that fighter would be unbeatable.

And he would be one ugly motherf*cker too

[Slyk]

Hopkins wins when Toney dies at the weigh in.

[general zod]

Originally Posted by Brighton bomber

Shame this fight never happened in Aug 2003 as it should have. Would have been a great fight, Toney had just beaten Jirov and seemed to take the sport seriously again for the first time since losing to Jones Jr.

I doubt if Hopkins would of been effective fighting at that weight. Quite a jump to go from 160 to 190

Originally Posted by Brighton bomber

The fight now would be a mismatch whatever weight it was fought at. Toney is shot too pieces and is a shadow of his former self.

True. He has been shot since Peter I

[general zod]

Originally Posted by Arcane

He was also quite the gift collector Tiberi anyone?

Most of the bad decisions went against him: Peter I, Thadzi, McCallum I (Draw)

[FAT_TONEY]

Originally Posted by general zod

Most of the bad decisions went against him: Peter I, Thadzi, McCallum I (Draw)

Not to forget the two Montell Griffin fights.

[general zod]

Originally Posted by FAT_TONEY

Not to forget the two Montell Griffin fights.

I scored the first Griffin fight to Griffin.

[IntentionalButt]

First of all, Toney can't make 175.

Second,

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

This would be funny and/or sad to watch, depending on where your sympathies lie.

Hopkins would clown Toney, badly. He would basically stand in the pocket and go full-on James Toney against him with sinuous movements and stinging him with annoying little nettle counters, essentially ripping off his own arm only to bludgeon him to death with it.


Toney has such a massive synaptic disconnect these days; it takes a full ten seconds for a message from his brain to reach any other part of his generous anatomy. In the form he showed against Greer, Reed, Lebedev, or Gunn he would be completely shellacked by Hopkins, who is miles ahead of all four white boys in quickness, smarts, and skill. That is if he could even muster said form - he is probably incapable of doing less than quite a bit worse, given that each of those performances out-stunk the last.