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Old 03-18-2013, 02:53 PM   #61
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Tim Bradley was widely regarded as the best at 140, based on his overall skill level and the strength of his resume, which included a victory over Devon Alexander. Still, there was much work for him to do there before moving up...

Amir Khan was someone he openly avoided.

Lucas Matthysse was a fighter on the rise and had proven to be at least as good as Alexander.

Danny Garcia would have been an interesting scrap.

He would have likely beaten Maidana, but it would have still been worth watching.

Could have scuffled with Zab Judah and maybe collected a nice name for his resume.

Rios and Alvardo have emerged since his departure.

Tim went for that Pac dough and I can't blame him for that, but he shouldn't have gone all-in on this welterweight thing. He should have made it possible for himself to still get back down to the 140 landscape, where he's bound to step on one of the mines that he avoided as he tiptoed across the last time.

Is it still possible, or will everyone be left wondering what could have been?
I agree & I liked tim but it's the truth.Declined khan for whatever reason.Beat alexander in a sloppy fight(actually made him quit after he cut him with a headbutt).All guys you named would give him a fight.Could've seen him likely beating zab/alvarado in tough fights maybe even china chin khan but The rest are just too much in my opinion.He knew 140lb div was rising decided to move up for a huge payday against pac/floyd while he could.Can't blame him but def saw him losing to a couple 140lbs(Matthysse,Garcia,rios).Peterson rematch or ajose bout would've been very intriguing fights too oh well.

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Old 03-18-2013, 02:54 PM   #62
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What you mean bullshit? he did clean out the division the only person he didnt fight was Aqueer Khan, but he skipped that fight to fight Pacquiao a much more meaningful fight.

and Khan moved on to lose to Peterson a guy Timmy beat, and Garcia... dont hate son...
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:55 PM   #63
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What you mean bullshit? he did clean out the division the only person he didnt fight was Aqueer Khan, but he skipped that fight to fight Pacquiao a much more meaningful fight.

and Khan moved on to lose to Peterson a guy Timmy beat, and Garcia... dont hate son...

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He didn't skip Khan to fight Pac. He skipped Khan and was bailed out by Arum, who granted him a Pacquiao fight several months later. But it's all semantics.
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:57 PM   #64
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Default Re: Bradley ducking the 140lb division: Is it set in stone, or can he get back?

Its one division below... All those guys can easily go up 7lbs and fight him... Everyone in the division is a natural 140lber, 7lbs ain't shit
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:06 PM   #65
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I agree & I liked tim but it's the truth.Declined khan for whatever reason.Beat alexander in a sloppy fight(actually made him quit after he cut him with a headbutt).All guys you named would give him a fight.Could've seen him likely beating zab/alvarado in tough fights maybe even china chin khan but The rest are just too much in my opinion.He knew 140lb was rising decided to move up for a huge payday against pac/floyd while he could.Can't blame him but def saw him losing to a couple 140lbs(Matthysse,Garcia,rios).Peterson rematch or ajose bout would've been very intriguing fights too oh well.
Do u people not remember the landscape at 140 at the time? Danny Garcia wasn't shit, and he continued to not be shit until he beat Khan

Rios was still at 135

Matthysse lost 2 close fights to Alexander and Judah, 2 people not on Bradley's level

Ajose?

Peterson rematch? Did no one see the Peterson fight? He MURDERED Peterson 11-1 at worst

Goodness people

And do u really think Bradley would lose to any of those guys? MAYBE Matthysse, but even then, Bradley's the rightful favorite
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:09 PM   #66
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:59 PM   #67
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Do u people not remember the landscape at 140 at the time? Danny Garcia wasn't shit, and he continued to not be shit until he beat Khan

Rios was still at 135

Matthysse lost 2 close fights to Alexander and Judah, 2 people not on Bradley's level

Ajose?

Peterson rematch? Did no one see the Peterson fight? He MURDERED Peterson 11-1 at worst

Goodness people

And do u really think Bradley would lose to any of those guys? MAYBE Matthysse, but even then, Bradley's the rightful favorite
Yes I remember but I knew all these would rise to top 10 140lbs eventually they were rising undefeated contenders .Yes he beat peterson Nobody is denying that Peterson went on to improve become world champ,Tell me nobody would see rematch though after bradley last two performances vs pac/Ruslan smh...Matthysse is one of the main reasons all the above moved up(Bradley,Maidana,devon)They want to no part of him.They know what's coming to him,the undisputed 140lb crown & nobody wants to stick a round to be one of his victims, well it's too late for Devon.Ajose is legit any real fan would know that.

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Old 03-18-2013, 04:10 PM   #68
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Tim cleaned out 140 when he left, so to say he ducked the division is pure retardation.
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A very good argument can be made that Timothy Bradley has the best ever resume at 140. This is partaitaly due to the fact that 140 is not the deepest division historicly.
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Ducking??

Boxing fans get dumber by the day.
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Bradley did quite fine at 140, seeing as how he was the best there before leaving. So IDK what you're talking about and I hope it ain't that sh*tty first post you made. Ducking Khan and sh*t.
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he is the boss dog in that division.

those fighters should be happy he moved up. he's letting them get some shine now.
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What you mean bullshit? he did clean out the division the only person he didnt fight was Aqueer Khan, but he skipped that fight to fight Pacquiao a much more meaningful fight.

and Khan moved on to lose to Peterson a guy Timmy beat, and Garcia... dont hate son...
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Only really Amir khan was thought to be challenge before Bradley moved up Matthysse and Garcia weren't really well known until there fights with Khan and Alexander, Rios was fighting at 135 lbs. Can't really say he ducked any off those fighters outside of Khan.

Kotelnik after his controversial loss to Alexander ( I felt Kotelnik should have won.) Would have been a pretty good fight also.
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What's the argument, and what drugs should I take before listening for it to make sense?

You ever think you might be making a losing argument?
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:10 PM   #69
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Default Re: Bradley ducking the 140lb division: Is it set in stone, or can he get back?

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Tim Bradley was widely regarded as the best at 140, based on his overall skill level and the strength of his resume, which included a victory over Devon Alexander. Still, there was much work for him to do there before moving up...

Amir Khan was someone he openly avoided.

Lucas Matthysse was a fighter on the rise and had proven to be at least as good as Alexander.

Danny Garcia would have been an interesting scrap.

He would have likely beaten Maidana, but it would have still been worth watching.

Could have scuffled with Zab Judah and maybe collected a nice name for his resume.

Rios and Alvardo have emerged since his departure.

Tim went for that Pac dough and I can't blame him for that, but he shouldn't have gone all-in on this welterweight thing. He should have made it possible for himself to still get back down to the 140 landscape, where he's bound to step on one of the mines that he avoided as he tiptoed across the last time.

Is it still possible, or will everyone be left wondering what could have been?
He already cleaned out the 140 division a while back. Why go back? That's like saying B Hop should go back and mop up Martinez, Golovkin, Quillen and Chavez Jr. Fuck it! Dig up Sugar Ray Robinson to clean out his division again.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:59 PM   #70
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lol @ ducking


dude fought everybody and on their home turf
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