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Old 03-16-2013, 10:19 PM   #211
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Are you serious? So what's all this talk about May not capable of weighing more than 150?
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Márquez took a different view, saying: "I tried my best but the weight was a big problem. I think there was a 20-pound difference in weight.
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:35 PM   #212
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For shits n' giggles I just averaged Marquez's and Mosley's Career Weights as a well.

4 fighter's average adult Pro fighting weight

Lightweights
Mayweather 130lbs.(avg.) ht. 5'8"
Mosley 137lbs.(avg.) ht. 5'9"

Featherweights
Marquez 126 lbs.(avg.) ht. 5'7"
Pacquiao 122lbs.(avg.) ht. 5'6.5"

Size differences seem exaggerated by most but its clear who is the same size as each other.
If I include Pac's 1st 10 fights as a minor he'd only have a 119lb average career weight lol.
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:59 PM   #213
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HAHAHHAAH! Thats hilarious! 20lbs weight difference???????


So we're expected to believe that Floyd weighed between 165-170 on fight???lol hilarious!

The guy doesnt WALK around more than 160!

I showed a video earlier in the thread with Floyd weighing in,with clothes on,when he wasnt even in training camp weighing 159!!!!!

Marquez really was clutching at straws to make up shit like that!
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:01 PM   #214
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For shits n' giggles I just averaged Marquez's and Mosley's Career Weights as a well.

4 fighter's average adult Pro fighting weight

Lightweights
Mayweather 130lbs.(avg.) ht. 5'8"
Mosley 137lbs.(avg.) ht. 5'9"

Featherweights
Marquez 126 lbs.(avg.) ht. 5'7"
Pacquiao 122lbs.(avg.) ht. 5'6.5"

Size differences seem exaggerated by most but its clear who is the same size as each other.
If I include Pac's 1st 10 fights as a minor he'd only have a 119lb average career weight lol.
I assume these are weigh in weights as opposed to actual fight night weights??

Because even when he wa fighting at 126,Marquez was weighing 140+ on fight night
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:04 PM   #215
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Who cares? Did you wander into a wrong thread? It's this simple: you refuse next day weighin, and you forfeit the right to make self serving claims about your weight that night or at least to be taken seriously by anyone with any objectivity.

We also have JMM statement that Floyd was 20lbs heavier. If JMM will exaggerate about these matters, what makes Floyd immune? It's not like he's any more credible in general. And here he refused next day weighin AND failed to make the contracted catchweight by 2lbs. So you really have to be a true believer to argue he was negligibly bigger that night.
He weighed 150 against Ortiz.

Are you telling me he weighed 10-15 lbs less against Ortiz than he did against Marquez???

His own camp said he was 152 against Marquez which is actually pretty heavy by his standards.

He was 148 against Hatton, 147 against Judah. 149 against Baldomir.

And those were official next day weigh ins.

But feel free to believe he weighed 165-170 against Marquez if it makes you sleep better.

I showed a video earlier in this thread where Floyd weighed 159 while wearing clothes and not even in training.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:31 AM   #216
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He weighed 150 against Ortiz.

Are you telling me he weighed 10-15 lbs less against Ortiz than he did against Marquez???

His own camp said he was 152 against Marquez which is actually pretty heavy by his standards.

He was 148 against Hatton, 147 against Judah. 149 against Baldomir.

And those were official next day weigh ins.

But feel free to believe he weighed 165-170 against Marquez if it makes you sleep better.

I showed a video earlier in this thread where Floyd weighed 159 while wearing clothes and not even in training.
No I don't believe JMM, just like I don't believe any numbers coming out of Floyd camp if he skips the hbo weighin. But I think JMM has enough credibility he wouldn't be saying this if Floyd was 152.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:02 AM   #217
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No I don't believe JMM, just like I don't believe any numbers coming out of Floyd camp if he skips the hbo weighin. But I think JMM has enough credibility he wouldn't be saying this if Floyd was 152.
Marquez just got his ass thoroughly kicked. He was looking for excuses,so he started saying nonsense like "Floyd was 20 lbs heavier than me"

Which as we all know,is complete nonsense, and this would mean Floyd would have had to weigh 165-170 on fight night.

15-20lbs more than he weighed against Ortiz.

Here is Floyd weighing in, in that silly WWE event,with clothes on,while not even in training weighing 159 POUNDS!!!!!! Skip t0 5.20-5.30

Yet we're expected to believe that without street clothes,and after a 2 month training camp he weighed MORE against Marquez???
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:41 AM   #218
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Marquez just got his ass thoroughly kicked. He was looking for excuses,so he started saying nonsense like "Floyd was 20 lbs heavier than me"

Which as we all know,is complete nonsense, and this would mean Floyd would have had to weigh 165-170 on fight night.

15-20lbs more than he weighed against Ortiz.

Here is Floyd weighing in, in that silly WWE event,with clothes on,while not even in training weighing 159 POUNDS!!!!!! Skip t0 5.20-5.30

Yet we're expected to believe that without street clothes,and after a 2 month training camp he weighed MORE against Marquez???
Mayweather looked around 150 against Marquez. Marquez looked around 145 or so on fight night. LOL At Floyd being 160 on fight night

There wasn't much in it. It just looks worse because of Floyd's friggen tree branch arms vs Marquez T Rex arms.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:48 AM   #219
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They are about a division apart.
Pac can't go higher than 147, FMJ can't go higher than 154.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:52 AM   #220
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They are about a division apart.
Pac can't go higher than 147, FMJ can't go higher than 154.
Pac and Floyd have both fought at junior middleweight
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:21 AM   #221
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Floyd is best suited at WW while Pac is best at LWW. So about 5 lbs difference.
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