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Old 10-03-2013, 05:35 PM   #46
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Angles and footwork ,baby angles and foot work
That's why he throe less!
angles and footwork basically means joe upped his rate, which he could do since he had a lungpower advantage over the older man. Its the same thing he did against Kessler.

Joe worked out nothing, hes not smart, his plan B was increased volume by sheerdint of making sure he had a fitness advantage before getting into the ring with his opponent.

Joe has had a 'plan B' in fights and that was to weather the storm when he was getting outboxed. I am not denying Joe had a chin good enough to do this. But that wasn't what you were getting at, was it? not at all.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:43 PM   #47
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Joes greatest win was easily his victory over Kessler. I was somewhat impressed but then reality hit once he started called out shot to shit jones and struggled with a middle aged Hopkins and slapped his way to a hand raise vs manfredo. Joe did well for himself not really one of the greats sorry but surely a hall of famer
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Old 10-03-2013, 11:21 PM   #48
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angles and footwork basically means joe upped his rate, which he could do since he had a lungpower advantage over the older man. Its the same thing he did against Kessler.

Joe worked out nothing, hes not smart, his plan B was increased volume by sheerdint of making sure he had a fitness advantage before getting into the ring with his opponent.

Joe has had a 'plan B' in fights and that was to weather the storm when he was getting outboxed. I am not denying Joe had a chin good enough to do this. But that wasn't what you were getting at, was it? not at all.
I disagree...but maybe you don't need a plan B when you're ...







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Old 10-04-2013, 03:17 AM   #49
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Manny Steward of all people said, Joe might be one of the greatest of all time.

And then clowns mayweather in the Baldomir fight, saying, that Leonard and Hearns would of ko Baldo instead of running around potshoting.

Manny knows more about boxing then you EVER WILL!
Steward (R.I.P) said Linares was the best since Robinson.

Folks get excited and say stupid shit. Even great folks.
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:26 AM   #50
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Steward (R.I.P) said Linares was the best since Robinson.

Folks get excited and say stupid shit. Even great folks.


I really don't understand why some brits on here let their allegiance cloud their understanding
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:06 AM   #51
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Joes greatest win was easily his victory over Kessler. I was somewhat impressed but then reality hit once he started called out shot to shit jones and struggled with a middle aged Hopkins and slapped his way to a hand raise vs manfredo. Joe did well for himself not really one of the greats sorry but surely a hall of famer
shouldn't the hall really be reserved for GREATS.
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shouldn't the hall really be reserved for GREATS.

I think he deserves a hof place for notching up a record number of defences (20 or 21 I think), even though only 4 or 5 of them are legit.


if we don't give joe the record, the alternative is to give it to sven ottke...... horrible thought. Joe might have had paid for refs and opponents paid to dive but he didn't cheat like sven.
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Old 10-08-2013, 08:17 AM   #53
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I disagree...but maybe you don't need a plan B when you're ...46-0
exactly, what you WOULD need is tough fights against prime decent opponents, which Joe Calzaghe by his own admission (direct quote) didnt want.

Only someone really crap would lose if they stuck to easy-middling fights.

haha.
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Old 10-08-2013, 08:20 AM   #54
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Sir Joe could one up any fighter in the history of history. Thats just a fact. #NoBluePrint
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Old 10-08-2013, 09:34 AM   #55
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I think he deserves a hof place for notching up a record number of defences (20 or 21 I think), even though only 4 or 5 of them are legit.


if we don't give joe the record, the alternative is to give it to sven ottke...... horrible thought. Joe might have had paid for refs and opponents paid to dive but he didn't cheat like sven.
Might as well set a place for Sven Ottke since you're just letting anybody in.
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Might as well set a place for Sven Ottke since you're just letting anybody in.
this is unfortunately true, but one cannot deny a record when its set, even if its achieved through cheat stoppages and that ilk, its still a record.

It is a very dirty record though.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:26 PM   #57
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Sir Joe could one up any fighter in the history of history. Thats just a fact. #NoBluePrint
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shouldn't the hall really be reserved for GREATS.
I think the horse has already bolted on that one...
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