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Old 09-13-2013, 08:45 AM   #31
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His resume is too weak to mention him as an ATG, and a lot weaker than Wlad's.

These are the best fighters Vitali's beat :

Herbie Hide, Larry Donald, Ross Purrity, Vaughn Bean, Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, Danny Williams, Chris Arreola, Sam Peter, Juan Carlos Gomez, Odlainer Solis, Tomasz Adamek, Dereck Chisora.

Some of those guys were worthy top 10 at the time, others were borderline, and some wouldn't have made a reasonable top 10.
None of them will be remembered as anything better than an average contender, at best.
Shannon Briggs not to forget.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:38 AM   #32
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Vitali has a strong resume but just not strong enough.

Probably will end up around Top 15-20. Wlad obviously and should be a lot higher than that.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:51 AM   #33
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Vitali has a strong resume but just not strong enough.

Probably will end up around Top 15-20. Wlad obviously and should be a lot higher than that.
15-20 is way too generous.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:36 PM   #34
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you could argue for him to be a h2h atg . . . but his resume isn't great.
More or less agree. I am not sure about h2h greatness, but with his size and awkward style he could be difficult for many ATG.

His resume is quite weak, though. When great fighters were still available, even if already aging (Holyfield before 2000, Tyson, Lewis), he wanted no part of them... finally faced arguably the worst version of Lennox and still lost. Then retirement, and now facing "the best" opponents available (the best... from these who are not ducking him, and did not prefer to fight his younger brother). Part of this is not his fault, but it does not make his resume any better.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:08 PM   #35
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Yes his resume is poor when you consider how long he's held a title. But he has fought in a pitifully weak era, while having to share the title so only getting half the name opponents and was retired during his prime years.

Vitali's legacy will always be judged upon his ability and his performance against Lewis not his resume which is clearly lacking in quality.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:08 PM   #36
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VK and WK have similar quality names near the top
WK has dominance and longevity and activity
Therefore he is higher
but still 10-15 spots under Lewis.
VK is a H2H monster because of his chin, workrate, and size, but doesn't have a great deal of activity when compared with other greats who have lacking resumes as far as big names go (e.g. Holmes).

Jesus, what a moron. Who do you fill those 10-15 places with? Or do you keep them empty just to prove your point?
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:56 PM   #37
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if Wlad was Serena Williams then Vitali would be Venus.


Now Wlad is never going to be slightly as dominant as Serena but you get that its all relative.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:02 PM   #38
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Vitali tried to fight Lennox Lewis twice. Void ran from Pacquiao...
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:03 PM   #39
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Forget his resume.
It is an absolute disgrace that he is being allowed to hold onto his belt just because he wants to pursue a career in politics!
How on earth can he stay out until next spring and be allowed to keep the belt?
It's disgraceful.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:48 PM   #40
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No doubt, Pity. But, that being said, he is a better fighter than his more athletic, but, china-chinned brother.
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