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Old 05-26-2011, 01:44 AM   #226
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Exactly. but i can't blame manny for choosing $$millions before its too late. now he has a couple more fights after jmm, so i hope he fights the young champions.. i know he will.
I'm not mad he is making his money. It's not even really all about him. His handlers, promoter in particular, are duping the public. But, that's the game. Those of us who know better, do better.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:49 AM   #227
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He fights Ortiz, haters would say :
a. he is picking on an inexperienced/unproven fighter (example: "who did Ortiz beat? That hypejob Berto?"),
b. picking on someone tailor made for him whom he knows he can beat
c. picking on someone slower and with questionable skills/defense...
d. he is continually ducking Marquez.

etc.. list goes on. Haters will always find something to complain about
True...True. But, what they can't say is that he wasn't one of the top guys in Manny's preferred weight class. And they can't say that he isn't young, hungry, strong, fast, and looking like a beast right now.

Even Hopkins is getting shit for his choice of Pascal as an opponent (after he wins convincingly of course). But, Pascal was all the things I said above, right after his win over Dawson...can't be denied.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:58 AM   #228
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Martinez is one of my favourite fighters.

It's ashame that there really isn't much challenges/money at his optimal weight.

The man has put in enough work and deserves to be getting big money fights, and the 2 biggest money money fights are Pac n Floyd. He is just saying all that stuff to bait the fight and stir interest, looking after himself basically ...

Don't know why people take it so seriously.
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:01 AM   #229
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I'm not mad he is making his money. It's not even really all about him. His handlers, promoter in particular, are duping the public. But, that's the game. Those of us who know better, do better.
that's true. it's probly why donaire left..
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:15 AM   #230
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Martinez is just desperate to fight the asian midget.

Does he even realize that the midget is already way out of his comfort zone climbing up in weigh classes? And he is at 160

Martinez should go up to 168 and fight fighters close to his own size.
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:20 AM   #231
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YES 154 NOT 150!!

AND YOU FORGOT THE OTHER TWO
No idiot...I was saying that Pac's last three opponents were bigger than him. And then pointed out to you that Dzinziruk (Sergio's last opponent) is not bigger than him as you had claimed. Get it?
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:35 AM   #232
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No. I think people want to see Pac fight someone who has looked impressive in recent memory.

He fights mosley--Unimpressive two fights prior
He fights cotto--Unimpressive two fights prior (But, a good fight, IMO)
He fights clottey--Unimpressive, in general
He fights Marquez - Unimpressive, at the weight they will be fighting at

He fights Ortiz--IMPRESSIVE, atm. Holds the WBC title.
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This seems like the fight to make, for someone looking to take on the best fighters available in and around his preferred weight class.
Blabla, if PAcquiao fights ortiz, ppl will say Ortiz is B-Class and overrated.

If he beats Bradley, they'll say Bradley was never that good.

The list goes on.


Pacquiao fought the best fighters out there and took the toughest challenges, regardless of the circumstances. Cotto and Hatton were fights that everybody wanted to see, and a lot of people had those fights even. No one gave Pac a chance against De La Hoya. Clottey was a top welter and one of the most avoided ones out there for good reason. Margo was a pointless fight, but with a 17lb weight advantage, you can't call that a cherry pick and keep a straight face. Mosley was a shit fight, but that's one bad mark on a great track record.

If pacquiao fights on after Marquez, you can almost guarantee he's going to fight an Ortiz or Bradley, so I wouldn;t worry about it. But like I said once he easily sparks those guys out, people will still make excuses.
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:55 AM   #233
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Blabla, if PAcquiao fights ortiz, ppl will say Ortiz is B-Class and overrated.

If he beats Bradley, they'll say Bradley was never that good.

The list goes on.


Pacquiao fought the best fighters out there and took the toughest challenges, regardless of the circumstances. Cotto and Hatton were fights that everybody wanted to see, and a lot of people had those fights even. No one gave Pac a chance against De La Hoya. Clottey was a top welter and one of the most avoided ones out there for good reason. Margo was a pointless fight, but with a 17lb weight advantage, you can't call that a cherry pick and keep a straight face. Mosley was a shit fight, but that's one bad mark on a great track record.

If pacquiao fights on after Marquez, you can almost guarantee he's going to fight an Ortiz or Bradley, so I wouldn;t worry about it. But like I said once he easily sparks those guys out, people will still make excuses.
What you said invalidates nothing I said. Boxing fans, in the know, want to see the best fight the best. That is all. Clottey, Margarito, and Shane were ALL carefully selected opponents. Fans were not clamoring for these fights. Manny carried these fights, in and out of the ring. Because, they were absolute shit.
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:57 AM   #234
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Pac has Void running like the chicken he really is....................
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:34 PM   #235
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We arent talking about "prime" Pactard. We are talking about coming off of dominating performances.

Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, Marquez and Baldomir were all coming off dominating performances.


When Pac fought Oscar, Cotto, Margarito, and Mosley they were all coming off bad performances.



Tell me Pactard why was Mosley "too good" before he fought Mayweather? But after 2 bad performances the was the best option?
Common sense analogy my man! And a good one! But, UUhhh you're talking to a Tard.....
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:08 PM   #236
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The only fight I'm interested in is Pac vs Mayweather.

Marquez vs Pac and Bradley vs Pac are alright...

But why won't Mayweather fight him?

WIth that said, Martinez is 100% RIGHT when he said Mayweather is better equiped to go up to 154.

But Mayweather is scared.

I'll put it this way...

If BHOP was Mayweather, he would have fought Pac 2 years ago and Martinez last year.
I'm interested in Pac vs Money, Bradley, Maidana,Cotto rematch,Martinez, Williams (bet Pac would like that option coming off a loss), Ortiz! Lot O good fights for Manny if he really wants one!
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:16 PM   #237
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sergio not going down to 150lbs.....he's duckin pac!!! quack quack...
It's all in yo mind my man!
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