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Old 11-26-2012, 10:27 AM   #1
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Default "Drowning" style?

I've encountered this online and I found it quite interesting

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I gathered that it's a hybrid of putting pressure and countering. What are some fighters that have this style?
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:02 AM   #2
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Juan Manuel Marquez and Joe Louis are fine examples. I call it counter-pressure style, but it seems to be basically the same thing.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:48 AM   #3
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Edwin Valero ?

Interesting concept in any case
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:51 AM   #4
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Interesting
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:16 PM   #5
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Did that guy actually think that he had come up with something new?
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:38 PM   #6
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Default Re: "Drowning" style?

King Carlos comes to mind when I read the detailed description, fight tall, control the range, get people to miss and make them pay for it, wear folks down.
I see Monzon all over that.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:38 PM   #7
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Deep water is not a style,but a strategi. u dont have to come forward banging. the point is to exaust your oponent,and if you go banging forward non stop, u risk taking yourself into deep water.. make the opponent miss alot,and make him trow many punches. make im rush his movments, and make him move alot by walking to him and feinting. thats gonna take all his energy,and when its round 9-12 hell be in the deep water,cause u had a plan to take all his energy,at the same time as u had a plan to save your own energy
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:39 PM   #8
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Did that guy actually think that he had come up with something new?
Yeah, its called - er - Boxing!
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:17 PM   #9
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Duran's a good shout.

Nowadays I'd say Gennadiy Golovkin exhibits that kind of style.
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:57 PM   #10
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I like it; never considered it as a categorical tactic, but thinking of fighters that use it, it makes sense. Interesting read, thanks for posting.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:15 PM   #11
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Mayweather and hopkins are famous for using that tactic. They are not punching mutch in the first part of the fight, but focus very mutch on defense,and because they dont punch mutch their opponent will punch mutch, so they try to tire them as mutch as possible, and then start tagging them when they are tired,witch will make them fade more and more..if u studie them,ull get it. They make their opponents use their legs mutch, and make them move more than they want, just to burn their energy up. And just by ounching for 12 round, you gonna get very tired, so when u at the same thime have to move alot, u gonna fade.. And remember, to box and move like u want to is okey, but as soon as you start too move just because the opponent makes u doo it, takes a whole lot out of u. if youre a boxer, you will deffinently get it.Its a good strategi, but then again,like all strategis, it has to fit the opponent..
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:25 PM   #12
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Juan Manuel Marquez and Joe Louis are fine examples. I call it counter-pressure style, but it seems to be basically the same thing.
Jack Blackburn had a similar term for Louis' version of it, describing him as a coutner attacking fighter. Counter attacking, as in in offence as opposed to just counter-punching (although this usually is how each counter-attack begins). Semantics is not conducive to boxing though, but Blackburn's idea for Louis fits this 'drowning' mould well.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:32 PM   #13
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Joe Calzaghe. More often seen as pressure-boxer, he can move and counter as well and will display all of it often in the same round. Definitely a "drowning" sort of fighter.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:46 AM   #14
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I'm just glad no one made an ill-advised Zora Folley comment.



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Old 12-20-2012, 11:44 AM   #15
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Monster.
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