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Old 10-10-2013, 06:23 AM   #16
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Default Re: At what point in his career did Jack Johnson use clinching as a primary tactic?

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Are you so sure? There might be enough newspaper coverage in his matches to answer this. All one would have to do is scan trough them to see at which point in time Johnson did a lot of clinching and holding.

Johnson himself said he learned how to use the uppercut after losing to Griffin, so its unlikely he clinched, held and uppercuted guys pre 1901!

If there was no film on Ali pre 1976, some might say he started clinching later in his career. But the truth is he adopted this tactic because he needed it in the second fight with Frazier.

I think its a topic worth exploring. Maybe Adam knows.
If you think its worth exploring ,then read the early reports, and post them,then posters might have something to debate, until then there is nothing to suggest that it even was a primary tactic of his.
Early in Ali's career he had no idea about close work. When he fought Cooper he just waited for the referee to break them in clinches.
Cooper took full advantage of this to land several shots thoughout the fight .In the return ,Cooper said Ali had learned a lot more and was not caught like it again.
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Default Re: At what point in his career did Jack Johnson use clinching as a primary tactic?

probably after he was KOed.
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