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View Poll Results: How big is 2013 Floyd at welterweight?
He is a large welterweight 2 2.94%
He is roughly an average sized welterweight 35 51.47%
He is a small welterweight 31 45.59%
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:54 PM   #256
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Majority of the fighters who have moved up from lower weights. But guys who a natural ww are bigger than floyd. even some who moved up from 40
So would that not put Floyd in the average sized group.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:55 PM   #257
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IB you are just blustering now because you have lost the argument. Apparently I'm also going to get savaged for not including 12 poll options to determine precisely how big Floyd is. And there I was originally just going to go for: Is floyd a small WW, yes or no?
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:56 PM   #258
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IB you are just blustering now because you have lost the argument. Apparently I'm also going to get savaged for not including 12 poll options to determine precisely how big Floyd was. And there I was originally just going to go for: Is floyd a small WW, yes or no?
Had you reduced the options even further, to read "large" or "small", how do you think it would look?
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:02 PM   #259
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But I never claimed he was a large welterweight... I suspect there would be lots of replies in this thread saying: Hey, why didn't you include an 'average' option?
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:08 PM   #260
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Started career at 130.
Weighed 150 against Ortiz in the ring less than 2 years ago.
Goes half way to junior middleweight when he does fight there.
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:15 PM   #261
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Which other boxers? The last time he faced someone clearly bigger than him was De la Hoya, and btw just so we are clear, do you have proof that Floyd only weighs 150 in the ring?
Baldomir was bigger
Ortiz was bigger
Guerro was bigger
Mosely was bigger

That's just at ww

Do you need more, or is that enough for you
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:15 PM   #262
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So would that not put Floyd in the average sized group.
No because the guys moving up arent ww's in the first place. That would put him in between small and average.

Who do you think is average size ww's today?
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IB you are just blustering now because you have lost the argument. Apparently I'm also going to get savaged for not including 12 poll options to determine precisely how big Floyd is. And there I was originally just going to go for: Is floyd a small WW, yes or no?
Just needed the inbetween small and average option, would've been fine.

Of the ww's in the top ten who havent moved up (pac,juan, tim etc) who is floyd bigger than?
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:24 PM   #264
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No because the guys moving up arent ww's in the first place. That would put him in between small and average.

Who do you think is average size ww's today?
Out of the Ring's top 10 I would put Mayweather, Brook, Thurman and Guerrero as average sized ww's.

Would put JMM, Pacquiao, Bradley and Malignaggi in the small category.
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Out of the Ring's top 10 I would put Mayweather, Brook, Thurman and Guerrero as average sized ww's.

Would put JMM, Pacquiao, Bradley and Malignaggi in the small category.

Brook and Thurman are definitely bigger than Floyd, especially Brook. Thats why i said there should be something in between. The other guys you mention aren't real ww's in the first place, they moved up.
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Brook and Thurman are definitely bigger than Floyd, especially Brook. Thats why i said there should be something in between. The other guys you mention aren't real ww's in the first place, they moved up.
Your really splitting hairs at this point.

Brook and Thurman might be a little bigger than Floyd but I don't think anyone would consider them big for the weight and this fact does not make Floyd a small welterweight.

Saying that the guys I put in the small category "aren't real ww's" is irrelevant they have all at least had a few fights at the weight and are higher ranked than most "real welterweights" that might be bigger than them.
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Keith Thruman fights comfortably at 154 also and has one of his best KO victories there
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:15 PM   #268
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Your really splitting hairs at this point.

Brook and Thurman might be a little bigger than Floyd but I don't think anyone would consider them big for the weight and this fact does not make Floyd a small welterweight.

Saying that the guys I put in the small category "aren't real ww's" is irrelevant they have all at least had a few fights at the weight and are higher ranked than most "real welterweights" that might be bigger than them.
Brook last fight was at 152 as he was struggling to make 147 lbs and Thurman has moved down from 154 lbs.

Bradley weighed more in his last fight than Floyd ever has, although against Pacquaio he was a lot lighter and better suited at that weight.

Malignaggi is roughly the same size as Floyd, I seen a video were he was stating he had to move up because he couldn't make 140 lbs anymore and was around 160 lbs at the time I think, no fight lined up though, but was still in good shape.

Pacquiao is a former Flyweight, and Marquez is a former Feather weight, both weigh around the same on fight night as Floyd did against Ortiz 150 lbs or slightly less. Floyd also weighed less than 150 lbs a month before the Guerrero fight.
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Your really splitting hairs at this point.

Brook and Thurman might be a little bigger than Floyd but I don't think anyone would consider them big for the weight and this fact does not make Floyd a small welterweight.

Saying that the guys I put in the small category "aren't real ww's" is irrelevant they have all at least had a few fights at the weight and are higher ranked than most "real welterweights" that might be bigger than them.
Nobody has said he was small but considering the options we have to vote on its the only one that fits. I said he was somewhere inbetween small and average. He is bigger than Juan and pac and tim(slightly), but he is smaller than the natural welters. Brook is clearly bigger than floyd.


And it isnt irrelevant because these guys have moved up. Juan wouldnt even be at 47 if he wasnt chasing pac. Them being ranked higher is a testament to their skills not size. They are blown up FW's (Pac and Jmm).

Relative to the natural ww's floyd is smaller
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:03 PM   #270
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Out of the Ring's top 10 I would put Mayweather, Brook, Thurman and Guerrero as average sized ww's.

Would put JMM, Pacquiao, Bradley and Malignaggi in the small category.
how many fights at 130 do Thurman and Brook have?
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