WHY don't boxers FIGHT in ANOTHER STATE/COUNTRY when suspended??

[Low Blow Combos]

This boggles my mind. Juanma was suspended in PR... why did he wait on the sidelines for a year instead of fighting in NY or some other place? They let themselves become the corrupted systems bitch. NOW Chavez JR is facing a possible suspension that might sideline him for a few months, WHY do they just sit and NOT DO LIKE MARGARITO and get their license somewhere else?

[eze]

It's considered a spit in the face of the commission. And they aren't going to be exactly happy to re-instate you.

Plus, a lot of other commissions follow suit with the what other commissions say about a fighter.

[CASH_718]

Going to a different state is useless because almost every state will not give you license if you are suspense. And going to.a different country will just piss them off more and you wont be fighting there ever again. So is it worth it? No.

[Low Blow Combos]

I see, good contribution fellas.

But then again, you are suspended in THAT particular state. Your punishment as a fighter and for the promotional company is to not be able to enjoy the privileges that come with fighting in Las Vegas.

I don't see anything wrong with fighting in another state WHEN LAS VEGAS ISN'T the only state that hosts important fights. You gladly respect their decision and don't fight there until the sentence is up. Get what I'm saying?

[eze]

Originally Posted by Low Blow Combos

I see, good contribution fellas.

But then again, you are suspended in THAT particular state. Your punishment as a fighter and for the promotional company is to not be able to enjoy the privileges that come with fighting in Las Vegas.

I don't see anything wrong with fighting in another state WHEN LAS VEGAS ISN'T the only state that hosts important fights. You gladly respect their decision and don't fight there until the sentence is up. Get what I'm saying?

Because if someone test positive for a banned substance in Vegas.... why should they be able to fight anywhere? Essentially if it worked that way, then one could cheat and just fight in a different state each fight and would their way back around the country...


Just because you don't like their decision doesn't mean you should go fight somewhere else.

Margarito would never get his license in the states if he applied to fight anywhere. It would of been a spit in the face of the CA commission and no other state would of let him fight there.

It's different when states just think you are too crazy, like Tyson-Lewis... who had to find states who even wanted the fight. That's different...

[Pimp C]

Originally Posted by eze

It's considered a spit in the face of the commission. And they aren't going to be exactly happy to re-instate you.

Plus, a lot of other commissions follow suit with the what other commissions say about a fighter.

Bingo

[Low Blow Combos]

Originally Posted by eze

Because if someone test positive for a banned substance in Vegas.... why should they be able to fight anywhere? Essentially if it worked that way, then one could cheat and just fight in a different state each fight and would their way back around the country...


Just because you don't like their decision doesn't mean you should go fight somewhere else.

Margarito would never get his license in the states if he applied to fight anywhere. It would of been a spit in the face of the CA commission and no other state would of let him fight there.

It's different when states just think you are too crazy, like Tyson-Lewis... who had to find states who even wanted the fight. That's different...

But money speaks in this business man, don't you think? We are fans of one of the most corrupt sports around. Margarito's eye was not fit for Las Vegas but poppa Bob managed to make it fit for New York while clearly it was not.

But I get your point, I mean, when talking about it in a clean and honest light - you are a 100% correct. I just don't like how boxing is structured then, it's not one body. You are not banned from BOXING, you are banned from a STATE BUT yet you kind of are BANNED from boxing.

[eze]

Originally Posted by Low Blow Combos

But money speaks in this business man, don't you think? We are fans of one of the most corrupt sports around. Margarito's eye was not fit for Las Vegas but poppa Bob managed to make it fit for New York while clearly it was not.

That's different. That was getting clearance, not a suspension.

But I get your point, I mean, when talking about it in a clean and honest light - you are a 100% correct. I just don't like how boxing is structured then, it's not one body. You are not banned from BOXING, you are banned from a STATE BUT yet you kind of are BANNED from boxing.

When it comes to suspensions and fines. States almost always follow suit with the original state schoice.


When it comes to clearance, or finding a license, that's different.

Does that help?

[eze]

If a fighter test positive for PEDs... he should be banned/suspended nation wide.

[Dee]

This issue got brought up in the Haye vs Chisora fight...

Because Chisora wasen't 'banned', The Luxembourg Commission were happy to give Chisora a license (and make some money, too).

However IF he was banned, they wouldn't have given the license to him.

It's considered convention between the organisations.

[NoCoolFool?]

Originally Posted by Dee

This issue got brought up in the Haye vs Chisora fight...

Because Chisora wasen't 'banned', The Luxembourg Commission were happy to give Chisora a license (and make some money, too).

However IF he was banned, they wouldn't have given the license to him.

It's considered convention between the organisations.

Yes, and No...its even gets more complicated.
The British Boxing Board of Control is not legally government affiliated. So basically it's some private corporation simply trying to hold on to it's monopoly.

[kommieforniaglo]

Originally Posted by Low Blow Combos

This boggles my mind. Juanma was suspended in PR... why did he wait on the sidelines for a year instead of fighting in NY or some other place? They let themselves become the corrupted systems bitch. NOW Chavez JR is facing a possible suspension that might sideline him for a few months, WHY do they just sit and NOT DO LIKE MARGARITO and get their license somewhere else?

Most people will say that it has to do with spitting in the face of the commission or give them the finger. The truth is it has to do with money, if the promoter/manager knows that you have lack of options as in terms of earning power or venue he will use that to his gain.

Alot of boxing contracts/deals are negotiated at what every one can get. IE: Gamboa had a shitty deal with Top Rank, and the other promoter that co-promoted him. He probably knew that at signing, in fact every body knew that at signing but he was desperate at the time, and they knew that, and knew lack of options would make him take it.

Same thing, if you are established getting decent purses in the states, and suddenly you are suspended, your promoter is not your friend, and will gladly promote you and help you fight abroad, but he will **** you....know that you don't have the same market share or appeal outside of states, and use that as a point in paying you a pittance.

It all comes down to options, when you are banned in a nation where you are considered "home" or marketable, you lose options at the negotiating table, and that translates to less money

[pong]

it can happen the british comission stopped danny williams now he fights out of lativa