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Old 08-07-2007, 07:12 PM   #16
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Default Re: SRR - would he have been as great if he faced the top blk contenders?

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Well Williams and the Kid were between weights as I understand things (they'd be light middles today) and certainly would have been around to take on SRR at Welter, or Middle. As far as critisising him goes, not really, I think I just answered the original question. Peanuts? SRR often fought for 7, 10 grand early doors, so most of these guys could have matched that. Burley's people are supposed to have offered him career best paydays twice, for example.
the only middles that Robinson faced as a WW were fighters that were based in and around the Ny area so as to ensure good ticket sales, most the fighters you refer to were based on the other side of America

regarding the purses, why go and face a defensive minded midleweight who would have the potential to make you look bad, and give you very little prestige (at that moment in time) and wouldnt sell many tickets to boot, when he can go and face someone like Fritzie Zivic in the old Garden in front of a packed house.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:17 PM   #17
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regarding the purses, why go and face a defensive minded midleweight who would have the potential to make you look bad, and give you very little prestige (at that moment in time) and wouldnt sell many tickets to boot, when he can go and face someone like Fritzie Zivic in the old Garden in front of a packed house.
Sure; and it should also be added that Zivic was a good fighter.

But what baring does this have on the original question? And what's your answer?
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:30 AM   #18
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what was your original question?

edit: oh you mean the original question, then I'd say he would have been.

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Old 08-08-2007, 04:40 AM   #19
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Hey JT, I heard that Jimmy Wilde ducked Jack Dempsey, can you beleive that
Nothing would surprise me
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:34 AM   #20
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Nothing would surprise me
No you got it wrong,Dempsey ducked Wilde,Rickard was scared of a possible Welsh backlash,and subsequent race riots so the fight never came off,to Jack,s credit he said he wanted to fight Jimmy ,it was just boxing politics.
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No you got it wrong,Dempsey ducked Wilde,Rickard was scared of a possible Welsh backlash,and subsequent race riots so the fight never came off,to Jack,s credit he said he wanted to fight Jimmy ,it was just boxing politics.
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