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Old 07-04-2010, 09:09 AM   #1
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Default All of a sudden Haye, his promoters and fans start appearing......

Amazing isn't how once Wlad signs to fight Povetkin Haye starts talking, Sauerland start talking and Haye's fans start coming out of the woodwork; shocker!!!

And all of a sudden Haye's fans are saying: "Oh he couldn't talk about the contract so it's not his fault!" etc etc.

When Wlad called Haye out did he even once say "We are discussing the fight" - did he!?!? Well!?!?

Thought not.

Would that have constituted breach of contract to say they're discussing the fight?

Nope.

Instead Haye puts his tampax in and lays low for THREE MONTHS! Wlad signs to fight Povetkin and all of a sudden everyone starts talking like Haye is the patron saint of boxing!



Anyone who knows boxing, knows how it works, has been a fan for years & understands fighters' mindsets and promoters' interests knows full well Haye ducked Wlad.


Haye fans....
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:13 AM   #2
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are you privvy to behind the scene talks?

no?

well stfu!!
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:29 AM   #3
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are you privvy to behind the scene talks?

no?

well stfu!!
What so hay can't say "We are talking bout the fight?" huh? Like that requires behind the scene talk.

Why the **** would Wladimir beat every mandatory he has to fight + Chase Valuev, Chagaev; unify against Ibragimov and anyone else the fans want to see him fight then duck Haye?


let me turn that around and play devils advocate for you.......

Contrastingly Haye @ HW has fought: old man Barret. Giant sloth Valuev and stone aged Ruiz.

And soon to be Fraudley Harrison.


Wow. You really have me stumped there; I am so so sorry. Haye is a genuine champ who only fights the best!!!!
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:35 AM   #4
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Haye=*****
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:37 AM   #5
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What so hay can't say "We are talking bout the fight?" huh? Like that requires behind the scene talk.

Why the **** would Wladimir beat every mandatory he has to fight + Chase Valuev, Chagaev; unify against Ibragimov and anyone else the fans want to see him fight then duck Haye?


let me turn that around and play devils advocate for you.......

Contrastingly Haye @ HW has fought: old man Barret. Giant sloth Valuev and stone aged Ruiz.

And soon to be Fraudley Harrison.


Wow. You really have me stumped there; I am so so sorry. Haye is a genuine champ who only fights the best!!!!
1) Haye has said that he won't fight Harrison

2) Barret appears to be a fighter for many of the up and coming Heavyweights; Solis, Ustinov for instance have recently fought him. I suppose you will slag off David Tua for fighting Barrett as well?

3) Slag him for fighting old man Ruiz considering that was Haye's mandatory, yet wax lyrical that Wlad faces all his mandatorys.

4) Wlad didn't chase Chagaev, circumstances suited both fighters

5) If Haye has a gagging order not to speak about contract talks then its obviously been set up by K2 in order for Haye to get a **** load of abuse in order to goad him into finally saying "**** it lets get it on".
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:37 AM   #6
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Can't say I noticed more haye fans than usual
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:39 AM   #7
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Default Re: All of a sudden Haye, his promoters and fans start appearing......

Any word about Haye's plans to fight in autumn? Or is he planning to stretch it till next April and give Ruiz a re-match?
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:43 AM   #8
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1) Haye has said that he won't fight Harrison - Oh really? Want to bet? Who is will he fight? Bum Of The Month? I am so going to bookmark this thread!!

2) Barret appears to be a fighter for many of the up and coming Heavyweights; Solis, Ustinov for instance have recently fought him. I suppose you will slag off David Tua for fighting Barrett as well? - And what did he do post Barrett? That's right give Sauerland and King option on him just so he could get a points 'win' vs the stationary giant Valuev...

3) Slag him for fighting old man Ruiz considering that was Haye's mandatory, yet wax lyrical that Wlad faces all his mandatorys. - The difference is Wlad gets his mandatories out of the way. haye and his fans use the mandatories as excuses just like you just proved

4) Wlad didn't chase Chagaev, circumstances suited both fighters - Correct. Chagaev (Along with actually being considered the true WBA champion at the time) is willing to fight the best. Note to Haye.......

5) If Haye has a gagging order not to speak about contract talks then its obviously been set up by K2 in order for Haye to get a **** load of abuse in order to goad him into finally saying "**** it lets get it on". - 1) Dan Rafael stated Wlad was offered 50/50 & 2) Where's your proof Haye was forced to be quiet by K2?

Nothing you can argue has any concrete argument to back it up. Nothing.
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:44 AM   #9
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Default Re: All of a sudden Haye, his promoters and fans start appearing......

I'm sure this thread will bring up new discussion points that haven't yet been covered.
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Old 07-04-2010, 09:51 AM   #10
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Nothing you can argue has any concrete argument to back it up. Nothing.

so let me get this right, if Valuev invokes the rematch clause against Haye, will you still say that Haye is ducking K2?

I bet you will.

All I know is talks are still on going, Sauerland and GBP have confirmed this.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:13 AM   #11
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so let me get this right, if Valuev invokes the rematch clause against Haye, will you still say that Haye is ducking K2?

I bet you will.

All I know is talks are still on going, Sauerland and GBP have confirmed this.
He is ducking them. You'd be a re**** to think otherwise. If he really wanted to fight them it would have happened in 2008. It's ridiculous the length Haye fans go to to try justify his nonsense. Any true boxing fan calls Haye for what he is, a good cruiserweight, an absolute ***** fart at heavy.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:15 AM   #12
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Haye and his team were banned from talking to the press during negotiations. Blame Klitschko for asking for that. You can't say it's Haye's fault for being quiet until the Povetking fight was signed, when the sole reason he was, was because K2 demanded it.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:20 AM   #13
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Haye and his team were banned from talking to the press during negotiations. Blame Klitschko for asking for that. You can't say it's Haye's fault for being quiet until the Povetking fight was signed, when the sole reason he was, was because K2 demanded it.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:24 AM   #14
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I've already stopped giving a ****,,, but it's unbelieveable to me that Haye fans would still continue to defend him even now!

I guess love really is blind.
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:31 AM   #15
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He is ducking them. You'd be a re**** to think otherwise. If he really wanted to fight them it would have happened in 2008. It's ridiculous the length Haye fans go to to try justify his nonsense. Any true boxing fan calls Haye for what he is, a good cruiserweight, an absolute ***** fart at heavy.
no mate you are a re**** if you can't think outside the box and actual sit and think about possible options and hurdles.

****s like you always scream "ducking"

away and grow some brain cells.
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