Wladimir Klitschko vs. Frank Bruno

[KidDynamite]

Who wins?

[Boxed Ears]

heh heh heh

[SuzieQ49]

The 2010 Wladimir Klitschko knocks out Frank Bruno in mid-late rounds

[Sailor Liston]

Bruno by dec or late TKO
wladimir hace problems with thompson,and frank is thousend times better

[Webbiano]

Originally Posted by SuzieQ49

The 2010 Wladimir Klitschko knocks out Frank Bruno in mid-late rounds

This is precisely how I see it. Bruno's jab may give Wlad a few problems early on, but wouldn't be able to get anything going on the inside. A left hook wobbles Frank and a big right from Wlad finishes him off midway through the 8th

[Sailor Liston]

Frank´s jab can finish jabimir

[KidDynamite]

Bruno was nearly 250 lbs at his best and had an 82" reach

Wlad is usually around 240 and only has an 81" reach

Bruno was also stronger from the looks of it and more heavily muscled ... shouldn't that give him the advantage according to klitschko reasoning?

[Colonel Sanders]

Wlad too athletic for plodding Bruno

Wlad stops Bruno late

[Unforgiven]

Bruno would come to fight and give a honest effort.
Klitschko would knock him out or have him helpless on the ropes around the 9th round.

[MagnaNasakki]

Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Bruno would come to fight and give a honest effort.
Klitschko would knock him out or have him helpless on the ropes around the 9th round.

My thoughts.

It's a tit for tat fight at range for awhile. Frank had a great jab, and gave jabbers fits, but Wlad's is the best he would have fought. I think it'd be contentious and even, hunt and peck for awhile.

It ends when Wlad gets off a right that lands hard, though.

[Webbiano]

Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

My thoughts.

It's a tit for tat fight at range for awhile. Frank had a great jab, and gave jabbers fits, but Wlad's is the best he would have fought. I think it'd be contentious and even, hunt and peck for awhile.

It ends when Wlad gets off a right that lands hard, though.

Precisely. The pre-Steward Lewis that Bruno fought didn't utilise his jab to it's full potential by any means. Wlad's jab is slightly better compared to a prime Lewis (IMO) let alone the version Bruno fought. I don't think Bruno stays competitive for much longer than 4 rounds, which is about the time it would take for Wlad to give Frank a taste of his power. Bruno would get caught into the jab, jab, grab style Wlad uses and as soon as wlad steps up the offensive output he would put Frank away. This would probably be a few rounds after Bruno tasted Wlad's power as Frank had some serious firing power to and the younger brother would be well within his own right to be cautious of it.

[MagnaNasakki]

Originally Posted by Webbiano

Precisely. The pre-Steward Lewis that Bruno fought didn't utilise his jab to it's full potential by any means. Wlad's jab is slightly better compared to a prime Lewis (IMO) let alone the version Bruno fought. I don't think Bruno stays competitive for much longer than 4 rounds, which is about the time it would take for Wlad to give Frank a taste of his power. Bruno would get caught into the jab, jab, grab style Wlad uses and as soon as wlad steps up the offensive output he would put Frank away. This would probably be a few rounds after Bruno tasted Wlad's power as Frank had some serious firing power to and the younger brother would be well within his own right to be cautious of it.

I've been up against both. Wlad's jab is better than Lewis, and its not a close argument, so you are right in my book. Lewis had a good jab, serviceable, quick, heavy, and long. A fine, fine weapon, but it was not the best, or the second best, I have encountered.

Part of it had to do with Lewis being very well rounded. He had the full arsenal of punches, and he used them. Wlad doesn't have short range punching, and uses his left hook very sparingly, almost always off the jab. This is the punch I think bothers Bruno, and opens the fight-ending right hand.

I don't think Frank would get comfortable with range, which he needed to open up, or get space to flail about, which is how he hurt Tyson. If it gets close, he's getting wrapped up. At range, he's at a decisive disadvantage in footwork and footspeed, and the more or less equal reaches(An inch or two has no practical effect on a fight) would be offset by the height differential.

[Webbiano]

Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

I've been up against both. Wlad's jab is better than Lewis, and its not a close argument, so you are right in my book. Lewis had a good jab, serviceable, quick, heavy, and long. A fine, fine weapon, but it was not the best, or the second best, I have encountered.

Part of it had to do with Lewis being very well rounded. He had the full arsenal of punches, and he used them. Wlad doesn't have short range punching, and uses his left hook very sparingly, almost always off the jab. This is the punch I think bothers Bruno, and opens the fight-ending right hand.

I don't think Frank would get comfortable with range, which he needed to open up, or get space to flail about, which is how he hurt Tyson. If it gets close, he's getting wrapped up. At range, he's at a decisive disadvantage in footwork and footspeed, and the more or less equal reaches(An inch or two has no practical effect on a fight) would be offset by the height differential.

Cheers for that bit of info Magna. Can you recall the years you sparred with Lewis and Wlad and your age at the time?

[MagnaNasakki]

Originally Posted by Webbiano

Cheers for that bit of info Magna. Can you recall the years you sparred with Lewis and Wlad and your age at the time?

Last time I sparred with Lennox would be the late late 1990's....Fighting him is the stronger memory, tbh. I'm gonna tell you what, it all hurt!

Wlad, I got to work with in Detroit before Ibragimov, and very briefly I volunteered him some rounds for Austin.

My age at the time would be a bit revealing, and I enjoy the fair conversation and trade of ideas that comes with anonymity . Keeps the trolls at bay, and keeps anybody from giving my opinion and analysis more weight than it deserves. In the end, we're all fans, and it's all a matter of perspective.

[SuzieQ49]

MagnaNasakki,

Since you sparred with a prime Wladimir of recent years , can you give us your opinion on him? How do you rate his jab?