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View Poll Results: Joe Louis vs George Foreman. Who wins and how?
Joe Louis by K.O in rounds 1-7. 17 22.67%
Joe Louis by K.O in rounds 8-15. 24 32.00%
Joe Louis by decision. 4 5.33%
George Foreman by K.O in rounds 1-7. 27 36.00%
George Foreman by K.O in rounds 8-15. 3 4.00%
George Foreman by decision. 0 0%
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:04 PM   #46
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Of course. But every fighter who visits the canvas is apparently 'exposed'... unless it was Louis.
Just because others are stupid, it gives you no more lisence to be. Paper chin? Don't be willfully obtuse.
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I again ask- how was Louis robotic? He didn't go in one direction laterally; he didn't have to go either on the back foot or front foot; his punch sequences were varied and eclectic. Louis was robotic only in the same way a swarm of killer bees is robotic (ie. not at all). You never knew what was coming next against a boxer-puncher like Joe Louis.

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Old 08-09-2007, 07:07 PM   #48
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:10 PM   #49
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This is the shittest post i've ever read.
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Do you guys really think Louis would pull an Ali? You really do? OMG,you really do.
Like Ali, he'd fire quick counter-punches. Louis's hands were almost as fast as Ali's, his punchers far harder, and his punch variety/technique far greater.

As Jimmy Young and Ron Lyle showed, you don't have to lay on the ropes to make Foreman look ridiculous. Jimmy Young, on that night, moved only mildly faster than Louis did on the back foot.

What exactly is Foreman going to do? If he punches to the body, he has to lean down at a 90 degree angle. Because of his lack of head movement or peek-a-boo defense, Foreman is going to get NAILED and probably knocked down if he does down to the body against Louis.

Out-jab Louis? Hardly. Foreman's slower handspeed leave him open to a counter overhand right by Louis, and his tactic of sticking out his own right to block jabs is going to get him hit by left hooks.

If Foreman just unloads, he's hitting the canvas FAST. Given the way he swung his punches, he'd practically be head-butting Louis's counter punches.
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:12 PM   #51
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Same way Schemmling did,for example. But even much more ferocious.
Comparing Schmeling's mastery of counter-punching with a windmill like Foreman is insulting to the entire German people. Foreman couldn't throw a right hand with anywhere near the technique of Schmeling until he came back smarter and fatter in the 1980s/1990s.
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:12 PM   #52
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Foreman blasts that mummy out of the ring,period.

Schmeling had a heavy right hand and so had Foreman. Schmeling had a gameplan. Foreman's heavy right hand would land straight on that mummy's chin. Louis jabs wouldn't do shit.
Now you're resorting to name-calling. Foreman's overhand right was NOT a good punch. It was telegraphed and clubbing, which is why he never knocked anyone out with it.

Given that Foreman had neither the counter-punching ability nor handspeed of Schmeling, it's ludicrous to imagine him successfully using the same strategy.
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That windmill destroyed Frazier big time,my friend.
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That's an interesting coincidence: I like me as well.
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That windmill destroyed Frazier big time,my friend.
Windmills tend to if you rush right into their blades. Louis isn't going to come straight at Foreman open for uppercuts and standing straight in front of Foreman.
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That windmill destroyed Frazier big time,my friend.

Foreman and Frazier are on different ends of the same scale.

You are now resorting to picking out tiny peices of posts and offering single remarks instead of answering the questions that are being asked of you.
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You are now resorting to picking out tiny peices of posts and offering single remarks instead of answering the questions that are being asked of you.
I think he's worked out that he lacks a case. Styles make fights, and a brawler like Foreman is made for a counter-punching extraodinare boxer-puncher like Louis.
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instead of answering the questions that are being asked of you.


DON'T, I repeat, DO NOT ask any questions!

Because I don't have to respond to someone who argues a KO1 by Louis. Simply ridiculous and totally dreamland.
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DON'T, I repeat, DO NOT ask any questions!

Because I don't have to respond to someone who argues a KO1 by Louis. Simply ridiculous and totally dreamland.
Well I wasn't actually talking about the questions that i've asked you.

As far as my position goes i've laid it out in detail (unlike you), you can read the details at any point and refute them as it is so clearly easy to do.
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