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Old 08-11-2007, 09:35 AM   #16
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Wasn't it Bruce Lee who preached versatility like they are doing?

Wasn't it Bruce Lee who said fanciful stuff doesn't work and someone with boxing and wrestling experience would beat it?

Something tells me Bruce Lee would have the smarts and train hard enough to do ok.

Bruce Lee did **** up ALOT of different arts. He has sparked boxers, kung fu specialists etc

Lee is misunderstood. He is not invincible, he simply wasn't proven like a Fedor or Mayweather. On the flipside he wasn't some myth.
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:49 AM   #17
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Defeated British boxer Gary Elms by knockout in the 3rd round in the 1958 Hong Kong amateur boxing championships by using Wing Chun traps and high/low level straight punches. Before he met Elms in the finals, he knocked out three boxers in the first round. Hawkings Cheung, his fellow Wing Chun street fighter, witnessed the event.

Bruce Lee knocked out Wong Jack-Man in Oakland, California in a 1965 no-holds barred challenge match. It was Lee's last official fight. It lasted three minutes.

Lee knocked-out Chung, a Choy Li Fut fighter, in Hong Kong in a 1958 Full-Contact match. The match was refereed by Wong Shun-Leung.

Lee knocked-out Uechi in 10 seconds in a 1962 Full-Contact match in Seattle. It was refereed by Jesse Glover.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:43 AM   #18
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he woulda kicked chuck liddels ass
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:48 PM   #19
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Lee weighed 128 pounds when he died.
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Old 08-11-2007, 09:10 PM   #20
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Defeated British boxer Gary Elms by knockout in the 3rd round in the 1958 Hong Kong amateur boxing championships by using Wing Chun traps and high/low level straight punches. Before he met Elms in the finals, he knocked out three boxers in the first round. Hawkings Cheung, his fellow Wing Chun street fighter, witnessed the event.

Bruce Lee knocked out Wong Jack-Man in Oakland, California in a 1965 no-holds barred challenge match. It was Lee's last official fight. It lasted three minutes.

Lee knocked-out Chung, a Choy Li Fut fighter, in Hong Kong in a 1958 Full-Contact match. The match was refereed by Wong Shun-Leung.

Lee knocked-out Uechi in 10 seconds in a 1962 Full-Contact match in Seattle. It was refereed by Jesse Glover.
If that is his entire record he may be the most overrated man on the planet.
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:34 PM   #21
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If that is his entire record he may be the most overrated man on the planet.
well its not like UFC and PRIDE was around back then, use your brain.

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Old 08-11-2007, 11:02 PM   #22
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With his fortitude Bruce might have been a champ.
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:09 AM   #23
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Bruce Lee has proven nothing other than in movies...
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Old 08-12-2007, 02:10 AM   #24
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If that is his entire record he may be the most overrated man on the planet.
lol agreed.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:44 AM   #25
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well its not like UFC and PRIDE was around back then, use your brain.

Boxing, karate, wrestling, judo, kickboxing, muay thai, all thriving sports at that point in time, and to even quote the guy himself "all you have to do to beat a martial artist is wrestle and box for a few years", and yet....all talk.
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:42 AM   #26
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Boxing, karate, wrestling, judo, kickboxing, muay thai, all thriving sports at that point in time, and to even quote the guy himself "all you have to do to beat a martial artist is wrestle and box for a few years", and yet....all talk.
WTF is with all the hate for Bruce Lee? He was the guy that was all about mixing skill sets to create an ultimate style, was all about teaching martial arts to anybody willing to learn, and its the main reason why so many people in the martial arts world hated them. He felt there was no superior style, but that there were aspects of just about every style out there that work for different people.

He was a mixed martial artist! If he were around today and venerable, he'd be all about MMA! He was extremely dedicated to the ideology of MMA during a time when everyone felt their particular style alone was superior.. GEEZ! Quit hating!

With so many people around today willing to learn, mix and match skill sets, I'd argue he'd be among the most open minded people around, would probably train just as hard as anyone.. How good he would do is up in the air..
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Old 08-12-2007, 10:39 AM   #27
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What absolute haters.

That obviously isn't his whole record. They are just numerous IMPRESSIVE victories that only morons wouldn't recognise.
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Old 08-12-2007, 10:57 AM   #28
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This is why I hate fantasy talk. Who knows and who cares how Brucle Lee woulda done? Fact of the matter is we all know he would of loved how far MMA has come along since his time. Stop whining about it Bruce Lee would probably be an organization (UFC president) owner himself right now.
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Old 08-12-2007, 11:22 AM   #29
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WTF is with all the hate for Bruce Lee? He was the guy that was all about mixing skill sets to create an ultimate style, was all about teaching martial arts to anybody willing to learn, and its the main reason why so many people in the martial arts world hated them. He felt there was no superior style, but that there were aspects of just about every style out there that work for different people.

He was a mixed martial artist! If he were around today and venerable, he'd be all about MMA! He was extremely dedicated to the ideology of MMA during a time when everyone felt their particular style alone was superior.. GEEZ! Quit hating!

With so many people around today willing to learn, mix and match skill sets, I'd argue he'd be among the most open minded people around, would probably train just as hard as anyone.. How good he would do is up in the air..
Exactly.

Im not a big Bruce Lee movie fan, so I think Im pretty unbiased. I read one of his biographies, and guys, he REALLY is a MMA pioneer. He saw the beauty in all styles of combat, and he picked what was the most effective to use in real life situations.

He preached the use of all parts of the human body as a weapon. He preached ending a fight as quickly as possible, to finish it on the first blow if you can. For example, a streetfight, he adviced a kick to the groin or injure the opponents knee and shins.

He felt that in a real life or death streetfight, you are at a disadvantage if you just employed a stand up style. He recommended eye gouging, hair pulling, biting, punching, kicking, wrestling, joint manipulations etc.

Im not saying he'll win over BJ Penn, but If he was alive today, I know he'll be the biggest supporter of MMA.
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Old 08-12-2007, 01:25 PM   #30
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What absolute haters.

That obviously isn't his whole record. They are just numerous IMPRESSIVE victories that only morons wouldn't recognise.
It's not hate at the man, I'm indifferent about him, its his cult like following, it like they make Chuck Norris jokes but without the joke parts.

And for the record, those NHB street fights were won according to him or his wife, most other people who are somehow connected to the Wong-Jack-Mon fight seem to think Bruce lost pretty handily. And I for one have never seen any documentation of his Hong Kong boxing championship.
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