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Old 12-13-2008, 02:14 PM   #1
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I have been wondering what is the most preferred or popular speedball or swivel on the market? I have two different swivels and 3 types of balls, I have found that balls around 220 to 230 grams feel good with 14 Psi, the lighter balls at around 150 to 180 just feel to airy unless you have around 12 Psi but then they lose the crisp rebound on the board. I have a cheapo swivel that uses half hollow ball shell, I like the fact it will flow with the tension in the SB but it does have a down side, it can jump as its on a chain link so I have to be precise about where I hit it on the belly, I have a Bryan one that uses a link and bearing but this one can jar a little when it crosses, it's faster but it has a smaller ark as its shorter or closer to the board, I was thinking I should make my own swivel using a ball joint type mount or maybe a rubber hip joint, no jumping and it would be very consistent, still maybe you guys know about something better?
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:57 AM   #2
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Not many people use one over here I think.
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:47 AM   #3
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Not many people use one over here I think.
Why is that? I thought it was good to warm up with at the very least? I saw this guy doing some kind of double tap on a speed ball, it looked very impressive as far as coordination and speed goes, do you guys not hold competitions on who is the fastest on a speed ball? I find targets and scores give people something to aim for.
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Why is that? I thought it was good to warm up with at the very least? I saw this guy doing some kind of double tap on a speed ball, it looked very impressive as far as coordination and speed goes, do you guys not hold competitions on who is the fastest on a speed ball? I find targets and scores give people something to aim for.
I had one for a while and didn't really think it did anything for me. We have one at the gym and no one ever uses it. The competitive effect is nice, but we usually take that to the ring
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Speedballs are a huge waste of time and effort.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:28 AM   #6
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Speedballs are a huge waste of time and effort.
Why?

I just made two rebound boards as an experiment, I was just trying to get as much info on types shapes and methods of using them, I thought speedballs were a staple of any boxer?

If you hate speedballs how do you feel about the floor to ceiling balls?
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i love floor and ceiling balls

i use them heaps for dodging and slipping shots and to improve my accuracy

if your thinking of getting one they are brilliant and cheap
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If you hate speedballs how do you feel about the floor to ceiling balls?
Why I hate speedballs:
- First, does anyone throw punches at an opponent like they do against a speedball?
- Secondly, those who claim it is a good excercise to strengthen and increase endurance in the shoulder muscles would do a whole lot better by doing weight resistance excercises, or even doing medicine ball routines.
- Thirdly, there are those who say it improves hand-eye coordination. This may be true. However, hand-eye coordination is very specific to the movement it is practiced doing. Otherwise, video games would also be a great substitute for hand-eye coordination.

Whit I think of Floor to Ceiling Balls:
- Much more specific to the movement of the sport.
- Good for all around boxing coordination, but only up to the one rhythm dictated by the speed of that particualr ball.
- For much better practical applications, several balls of differing sizes and speeds should be used to be able to learn to adjust your own speed and timing instead of the same old rhythm everyday which you probably master after abouth two months of working any particular floor-to-ceiling ball.
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Old 12-17-2008, 09:24 AM   #9
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Why I hate speedballs:
- First, does anyone throw punches at an opponent like they do against a speedball?
I would like to say Joe Calza does in jess, but in Wing Tsun the speedball is perfect as the punches are very rapid and towards the head, I find it a very good for helping coordinate punches into the chin alone, there is no reason why a boxer cannot do this which is very effective.





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Whit I think of Floor to Ceiling Balls:
- Much more specific to the movement of the sport.
- Good for all around boxing coordination, but only up to the one rhythm dictated by the speed of that particualr ball.
- For much better practical applications, several balls of differing sizes and speeds should be used to be able to learn to adjust your own speed and timing instead of the same old rhythm everyday which you probably master after abouth two months of working any particular floor-to-ceiling ball.
Ok so your not against the speedball, it just to me it does not represent the arms at all, in the past I have attached a 25mm rope around the base of the ball and given it an arms length, when you punch the ball this rope acts like a flaling arm, this helps develope blocking and the ability to aviod punches whilst maintaining focus on the head, you can attach two ropes but you will get hit with one for sure so it helps with covering up, does anybody else have any training methods that incorporate the actual punches a fighter throws short of sparring?
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:04 PM   #10
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Too bad no one wants to answer your questions.
1) type of speed bag (size and Make)
2 type of swivel (Name and manufacturer)

I personall like a smaller bag --- peanut type (5'' x 8").
Its faster.
Now you need a real good swivel.
Title boxing has a few.
Dont go with the cheapies.
I am still looking for a real good one.
If anyone could recommend the best then please let me know?
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Too bad no one wants to answer your questions.
I know, I thought people would talk about training techniques and methods more than any other topic, but this is the smallest section of this website short of the suggestion area.

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I am still looking for a real good one.
If anyone could recommend the best then please let me know?
I am also still looking for new training methods and equipment, I will even entertain rookie ideas and suggestions, I will even listen to people who know nothing about boxing, the empty mind is typically the best one.

I am wondering if anybody has ever mounted two speed balls on a single rebound board? kind of like being able to control two yo-yo's at once.
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