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Old 08-11-2007, 02:21 AM   #16
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He never really looked like he was in his prime, but IMO in the second Holyfield fight he fought at close to 90% of his potential in his prime. He was kind of tentative in rounds 1 and 2, but when he got pissed off in round 3 we saw some ferocious flashbacks of prime Tyson back in that ring...Holyfield fought him well, but imo lost the third round (fouls aside).
Tyson stunned Holyfield in that third round as well, caught him with a powerful hook and Holyfield froze. Sadly, Tyson not being the same way he was in his prime didn't jump on him and finish it quick, he just stood there clueless for like 2 seconds then threw a few more. I'm still pissed as hell for the biting incident because even if Tyson would've lose that rematch it was clearly going to be way closer than the first time, that third round actually made me think that Tyson does have a chance to stop Holyfield, but then the biting happened and the rest is history.
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:54 AM   #17
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Tyson looked absolutely good against Mcneely, Mathis, Bruno and Seldon and in the opening seconds against Holyfield.

No doubt in my mind that Tyson was in his prime circa 1995-96.
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:57 AM   #18
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Tyson looked absolutely good against Mcneely, Mathis, Bruno and Seldon and in the opening seconds against Holyfield.

No doubt in my mind that Tyson was in his prime circa 1995-96.
man, you are so lewis-centric...you say a lot of things just to heighten up lewis

getting backed up by mcneeley? looked horrible (he let him do it though) not to mention that mcneeley is so bad there is no credibility
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:19 AM   #19
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man, you are so lewis-centric...you say a lot of things just to heighten up lewis

getting backed up by mcneeley? looked horrible (he let him do it though) not to mention that mcneeley is so bad there is no credibility


All you Tyson fans are pathetically funny.

Mcneely may not be so good but Tyson was so quick and powerful in there. So what if he was being backed up by Mcneely? Tyson has backed up by fighters all his career (Holyfield, Botha, and even Norris).

I don't know how old are you now but back in 95-96 (pre Holyfield), Tyson was perceived to be on his indestructible form. Pre-Mcneely, there was a question about if he is still good, but after Mcneely, majority of the experts thought Tyson is the man to beat.

There are of course some minority who always question Tyson's opposition - they have always been there since the start of his career.

Just before the 1st Holyfield fight, everybody was fearing for Holyfield's life in the ring,

It is only when Holyfield beat Tyson that everybody started to look retrospectively and make excuses for Tyson e.g. he doesn't have head movement, blah, blah, blah


Stop with the excuses already. Tyson was only 30 years then and looked as fast and as powerful as he was ever been.

HE WAS A HIS DAMN PRIME!!!
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:21 AM   #20
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Look, every time he fought against somebody better than Savarese or McNeely, whe got his ass whooped. All his quick KO fights after he got out of jail were against nonames. He is a done and gone Rusty Mike. And man isnt the tembre of his voice irritating?
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:17 AM   #21
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None. Tyson was ruined by Douglas.
Maybe, but I think King was the man who helped orchestrate his down fall. Douglas was just an effect to the cause
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:56 AM   #22
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Tyson was an 80's fighter, just like Evander was a 90's fighter. He was never the same after Douglas beat him and even he acknowledges that, hes a top 10 ATG if you ask me, in hes day he had everything.
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:05 AM   #23
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Bruno was extremely scared - he was like a piece of meat being fed to a shark. Of course Tyson's timing is going to look good when he doesn't really have to time at all but just decide WHEN he feels like punching a frozen deer. Bruno was meant to make Tyson look good considering how scared he was before the fight. Don't mean to be negative but that's how I see it. His best outings as I said earlier were against Holy & Golota where he looked explosive.
95% of his opponents were scared shitless of him!! The fight that most experts consider him to have been at his absolute peak was against Spinks, and what opponent was more scared of Tyson than him? I don't think you should diminish his performance against Bruno in their second fight based on that. Look at how he fought, and tell me he didn't do everything great?
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:16 AM   #24
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Post-prison, I would put forward Bruno II, Francis, Savarese, and Golota where he looked good, in terms of his aggression, movement, workrate and so on.

He looked good with his ability to evade shots and counterpunch against Bruno II and Golota, Savarese was a good burst of the old furious aggression, and against Francis he showed good body punching and angles.

He also looked good in parts of Holyfield I, Holyfield II (3rd round, ironic that), and rounds 1 against Nielsen and Williams where he was able to blast away with both hands.


The McNeeley fight is nothing, and it would've been unheard of in Tyson's pomp to see a guy like Peter rush at him and swing (even land a couple) of wild blows. Mathis Jr made him look quite bad in there until he fell to a neat right hand. Seldon folded from the first punch. Botha fight was awful though at least the finish was a classic. Norris was nothing, Nielsen was just a punching bag. Etienne had a good-looking KD but in my eyes a totally bogus KO, and Etienne's bullrushing and bundling Mike to the floor didn't make it look a good fight before that either. McBride fight was just horrible.
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:03 PM   #25
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:08 PM   #26
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Bruno II. Holyfield I
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:55 PM   #27
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TYSON looked good in the first five rounds vs Holyfield. He landed some lovely punches. Heres a link:

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The first punch of the fight was great
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:58 PM   #28
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The best cos he won. Golota was the best fighter he beat after coming out of jail

what a waste the pole was.

Lewis would of strugled with the tyson of that fight. I can see why people really fancied him to beat lennox
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:31 PM   #29
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Stop with the excuses already. Tyson was only 30 years then and looked as fast and as powerful as he was ever been.

HE WAS A HIS DAMN PRIME!!!
If a world class fighter is away from the sport for 4 years, and unable to train in boxing gyms, then he most likely isn't ever gonna be the same. There's a sense of accuracy and TIMING that you can't ever recover. Guys much greater than Tyson who took hiatuses around that age and for that long were never the same, and even they could train in boxing gyms.

People thought Holyfield was shot in 1996 after all the tough fights and how he looked in his previous 2 fights, so he was a huge underdog. But really, both guys had seen better days.

Holyfield actually probably peaked at cruiserweight in the late 80s.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:48 PM   #30
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Before he bit the ear in the Holyfield rematch. Tyson had a lot more head movement than in the first Holyfield fight, and was in visibly better physical shape.
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