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Old 08-14-2007, 05:07 PM   #76
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Your mid and In are about the SAME though.

Mid and in are not exactly the same because your outside-range contains the jab as your primary weapon.
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:07 PM   #77
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Please do not 'ummm' me.
Now, I don't mean this as an insult, but I've seen you do plenty worse than "Ummming" someone.

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Turpin beat ****ell a lot more cleanly and efficiently; he wasted less energy, looked better, and outperformed ****ell on a professional, tidy level. He dispatched a fitter-looking ****ell with far more accurate and economical punches than Rocky delivered.

Besides, I was referring to the finish, since finishing is what we are talking about. Turpin wrecked ****ell in the eleventh round.
So you're more or less saying that Turpin looked prettier doing the job than Marciano did. That may well be true, but Marciano did him in faster and more dominantly, so ultimately, even if he looked less economical or efficient in the process, his was, well, effectively at least as "effective" and "definitive". This is all a lot of hair-splitting, of course. Marciano put on a sloppy performance against ****ell, his form was unusually poor, and one would ordinarily have expected him to put ****ell away earlier. Not a big deal- for example, strictly speaking, no-name cruiserweight Ricardo Richardson beat Jose Ribalta more "effectively" and "definitively" than a prime Mike Tyson did.

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Old 08-14-2007, 07:15 PM   #78
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That's a sign of exhaustion.
An infighter fights within HIS range in which he can land his most powerful punches,means hooks or uppercuts.
No. An infighter punches inside what would normaaly be considered the optimum range for throwing punches. We are talking inches. He also maintains a low profile to make himself harder to counter.

Tyson never mastered this.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:17 PM   #79
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3) Infighting: You use the perfect range for the hardest hooks and uppercuts in your arsenal. You try to have the perfect angle of your arm. How you do that is up to you and how you feel comfortable with it.
Oh dear. The kids today really dont learn what infighting means.
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An infighter punches inside what would normaaly be considered the optimum range for throwing punches.

That's what I said already.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:21 PM   #81
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That's what I said already.
A first class infighter will sacrifice power to get the shortest distence of travel possible. We are not just talking about the distence you need to get power into an uppercut or hook.
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Oh dear. The kids today really dont learn what infighting means.

How old are you clown? I think you're not aware of who you're talking to.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:25 PM   #83
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How old are you clown? I think you're not aware of who you're talking to.
I am 29.

Who exactly am I talking to if I should know already?
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:27 PM   #84
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A first class infighter will sacrifice power to get the shortest distence of travel possible.

That's incorrect. Plain and simple.

Semi-Hugging Shoulder to Chest Style doesn't generate maximum powerpunches.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:28 PM   #85
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A few things-

Marciano slaughtered ****ell. This fight is always brought up and I have no idea why. Its one of the few, clear Marciano fights we have and the footage is savage. Check out the double left hook Marciano crushes ****ell with.

Holyfield got hit to much to beat Marciano.

Ali had the recuperative abilities to come back from a Marciano beat down. Possibly Holmes and Louis.
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That's incorrect. Plain and simple.

Semi-Hugging Shoulder to Chest Style doesn't generate maximum powerpunches.
No. You loose power but the punches are imposible to predict or stop. This is the ultimate expresion of the art.

Produce a list of who you consider to be the best infighters of all time I will explain why they were not infact that.
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I am 29.

Who exactly am I talking to if I should know already?


Certainly no teenager or highschool puppy that you are apparantly.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:33 PM   #88
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You loose power but the punches are imposible to predict or stop. This is the ultimate expresion of the art.

I assume you are new to boxing. That's no shame.
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Certainly no teenager or highschool puppy that you are apparantly.
Most people on this site have me pegged at about 70.
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I assume you are new to boxing. That's no shame.
Verry easy to make remarks speculating about my age and background.

Why dont you prove your superior knowledge by listing the five fighters you consider to be the best infighters of all time and explaining why they are the best five in terms of technique.

You might find that you dont know as much as you think.

Anyway I am off to bed.

Make your list and I will scrutinize it tomorrow.
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