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Old 12-21-2008, 10:22 PM   #16
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Here is a video of me doing some medicine ball exercises by Ross Enamait, not the best form, but it is apparently really good for functional boxing strength

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3 x 8 medicine ball throws to the right side
3 x 8 medicine ball throws to the right side
3 x 8 medicine ball throws to the left side
3 x 8 medicine ball cross with right hand
3 x 8 medicine ball cross with left hand
3 x 8 medicine ball jab with left hand
3 x 8 medicine ball jab with right hand
3 x 8 medicine ball slams
3 x 8 medicine ball chest pass
Total = 192 reps
Yeah, medicine ball baseball is interesting. I enjoyed doing the bit where you're doing sit-ups whilst passing the ball. As soon as your head comes up, a large, heavy ball is flying at it. Priceless.
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:01 AM   #17
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Strength can be acquired in more than one way. Good old heavy bag work for example, not always included when people talk about resistance training.

The reason I felt obliged to include the technique talk is that new people often compensate a lack of proper technique with strength.
No, you can't.
Lift weights.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:53 AM   #18
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Read the link I posted, it'll shatter your world
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Old 12-23-2008, 03:29 AM   #19
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So if increasing strength can at least in theory increase power, then why do studies generally show that this does not happen, even when untrained individuals are studied and it is maximal/short-term, not submaximal/sustained, power that is measured?
Oh really? This just shows how easy it is to trick the reader into something.

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- but since they do not readily transfer to other modes of exercise, it is the more limited hypertrophic response that has the greatest effect on maximal cycling power.
Maximal cycling? Erm.. ok.


ANYWAY, the article have a few good points. They are however very obvious and nobody, at least in this thread, have said anything that disagrees with this article.
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Old 12-23-2008, 03:31 AM   #20
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That didn't sound the way I actually wanted it to

It was a good article, but it changes nothing. That's what I wanted to say.. :P
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:09 AM   #21
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Oh really? This just shows how easy it is to trick the reader into something.



Maximal cycling? Erm.. ok.


ANYWAY, the article have a few good points. They are however very obvious and nobody, at least in this thread, have said anything that disagrees with this article.
What it suggests is that strength training only increases punching power if it causes hypertrophy. Neurological adaptations do not cross over. In other words unless you're gaining mass (and end up in a higher weightclass) it does not work.
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:34 PM   #22
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Thanks to all of you for your great information. Ive taken what all of u said into consideration and have tried 2 implement it into my training. Thanks again.
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Old 12-26-2008, 12:59 AM   #23
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Aplin if ur medicine ball exercises are for plyometrics or explosive strength then your ball should be lighter. Assuming you're using a 15-20 lb ball
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:36 PM   #24
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Here is a video of me doing some medicine ball exercises by Ross Enamait, not the best form, but it is apparently really good for functional boxing strength

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3 x 8 medicine ball throws to the right side
3 x 8 medicine ball throws to the right side
3 x 8 medicine ball throws to the left side
3 x 8 medicine ball cross with right hand
3 x 8 medicine ball cross with left hand
3 x 8 medicine ball jab with left hand
3 x 8 medicine ball jab with right hand
3 x 8 medicine ball slams
3 x 8 medicine ball chest pass
Total = 192 reps
Thats pretty good, but I dont see any one throwing the ball off your gut.
We do lots of that with a 11 lb. ball.
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Old 01-02-2009, 10:31 PM   #25
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I am 18 years old and i am just starting out boxing. I'd like to know some work outs and techniques that'll help make my punches as strong the professionals I look up to. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Joe Louis didn't need any strength training, why do you need it? If you can find some kind of an answer to that question, then ask Joe Calzaghe why he doesn't need strength either.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:41 AM   #26
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Joe Louis didn't need any strength training, why do you need it? If you can find some kind of an answer to that question, then ask Joe Calzaghe why he doesn't need strength either.
that may be true but joe louis and joe calzaghe are not your average joes r they?(love the pun)
i've done strength training for a while and the fact is it's enhaced my agility
and stepping speed, which has crossed over into punching power too
my hands aren't any quicker but they aren't any slower either
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:37 AM   #27
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that may be true but joe louis and joe calzaghe are not your average joes r they?(love the pun)
i've done strength training for a while and the fact is it's enhaced my agility
and stepping speed, which has crossed over into punching power too
my hands aren't any quicker but they aren't any slower either

.....and there is no possibility that you are delusional, is there?
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:00 AM   #28
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.....and there is no possibility that you are delusional, is there?
there is a certain level of strength that improves speed and power but that level is not very high in boxing
excessive strength training will slow you down and reduce power, but an average strength person benefits from just the right amount
once per week is enough to maintain the gains
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Old 01-03-2009, 02:11 AM   #29
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there is a certain level of strength that improves speed and power but that level is not very high in boxing
excessive strength training will slow you down and reduce power, but an average strength person benefits from just the right amount
once per week is enough to maintain the gains

Old fashioned boxing training got Calzaghe to the top of his division. Roy Jones, Mikkel Kessler, and Bernard Hopkins all did special strength training in preparation for Calzaghe. We all saw that it gave them no noticeable advantage. If strength was an issue in boxing you would have seen it against Calzaghe.
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:01 AM   #30
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that may be true but joe louis and joe calzaghe are not your average joes r they?(love the pun)
i've done strength training for a while and the fact is it's enhaced my agility
and stepping speed
, which has crossed over into punching power too
my hands aren't any quicker but they aren't any slower either
How did that happen?
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