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Old 08-13-2007, 01:40 AM   #16
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#2 ATG Middleweight, only behind Greb. Top 20 all time p4p fighter
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:22 AM   #17
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No.2 at MW, right behind Hagler but before Harry Greb.

Boring to watch but so effective. Tall, rangy, hard, patient and mean. He dissected them one after another.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:24 AM   #18
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#1 of course.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:27 AM   #19
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#3, behind Hagler and Greb.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:46 PM   #20
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........It made me dizzy to read that...
Yeh, I make myself dizzy with my tortuous illogic.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:48 PM   #21
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So you rank P4P on how one fighter would do in a head to head matchup with another of a different weight class were they the same size? I don't try that shit at all. I rank it on how successful they are for their weight class/size.
Well... I try... but I don't succeed.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:52 PM   #22
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#2 ATG Middleweight, only behind Greb. Top 20 all time p4p fighter
This is correct.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:54 PM   #23
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#1 all time at Middleweight

#12 all time pound for pound
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:54 PM   #24
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Ring Magazine Greatest of Last 80 Years:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
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4. Joe Louis
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6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb
8. Benny Leonard
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10. Pernell Whitaker
11. Carlos Monzon
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13. Ezzard Charles
14. Archie Moore
15. Sandy Saddler
16. Jack Dempsey
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18. Julio Cesar Chavez
19. Eder Jofre
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23. Ike Williams
24. Salvador Sanchez
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:55 PM   #25
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I made Chava the biggest b/c he is the greatest, ever, in my opinion.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:06 PM   #26
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Ring Magazine Greatest of Last 80 Years:


7. Harry Greb
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16. Jack Dempsey
Something is not right there
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:09 PM   #27
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Agreed, Greb is certainly too low, what were they thinking?
I was thinking Greb has the disadvantage of being dead for the last 80 years, his resume is 0-0-0-0 for the time period of the ratings....
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:12 PM   #28
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I was thinking Greb has the disadvantage of being dead for the last 80 years, is resume 0-0-0-0....



I predict his unbeaten streak will continue

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Old 08-13-2007, 04:15 PM   #29
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The list was created in 2002, so it's ok.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:17 PM   #30
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He died Oct 22 1926
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