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Old 07-01-2007, 08:24 PM   #211
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I think it is time In put this debate to rest

Tell you what, for such a long list, there's not much to object to here.

Foreman's far, far to high though
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:24 PM   #212
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Interesting and ferocious logic.

Problem is, every other guy on the list would hand Schmeling his head 9/10. Secondly, i feel you're overating the version of Louis that Schmeling beat. But if you're happy with near peak, I am too.

I think the Ali Frazier beat was a better fighter. Louis is THE example of a fighter who was better as soon as he got that belt around his waste.

Agree that Schmeling should've got his shot, and would have been favourite.
Thanks. It's debatable whether Louis or Ali were the better win, but I'd go with Louis. He seemed to be a bit closer to his heavyweight peak, and proved it by decimating everybody else for quite some time after Schmeling destroyed him. It was also the more decisive victory--Frazier won a clear but close decision, Schmeling dominated Louis and knocked him out.

Not sure that the rest of the top 10 would defeat Schmeling...of course, that's what they said Joe Louis would do as well.
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:25 PM   #213
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were do you guys have Gene Tunney and Harry Wills on your lists
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:26 PM   #214
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Good list.
Thank you
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:27 PM   #215
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were do you guys have [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] on your lists
Those boys are the elephant in my particular room.

Thanks for bringing them up.

Gene Tunney, low teens.

Wills, not high enough my friend. That's the only answer I can give right now.
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were do you guys have [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] on your lists
Tunney #21 (once had him #7) Wills #15.
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:29 PM   #217
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1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Foreman
4. Holmes
5. Lewis
6. Liston
7. Holyfield(His use of steroids might take him off my list. havent decided)
8. Tyson
9. Dempsey
10. Marciano
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:30 PM   #218
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7. Holyfield(His use of steroids might take him off my list. havent decided)
Nothing proven of course. Well.

You have a solid list there.
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:31 PM   #219
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Tell you what, for such a long list, there's not much to object to here.

Foreman's far, far to high though
But I love redemption and Foreman redeemed himself 20+ years after the Rumble in the Jungle... That is what define as redemption, thus he is so highly rated in my rankings.
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:34 PM   #220
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But I love redemption and Foreman redeemed himself 20+ years after the Rumble in the Jungle... That is what define as redemption, thus he is so highly rated in my rankings.
Where your own persomal criterea are concerned, you can't be faulted. Any other examples on your heavyweight list?
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:34 PM   #221
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  1. Muhammad Ali
  2. Lenox Lewis
  3. Mike Tyson
  4. Joe Frazier
  5. Joe Louis
  6. George Foreman
  7. Larry Holmes
  8. Evander Hollyfield
  9. Jack Dempsey
  10. Sonny Liston




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Old 07-01-2007, 08:36 PM   #222
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  1. Muhammad Ali
  2. Lenox Lewis
  3. Mike Tyson
  4. Joe Frazier
  5. Joe Louis
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Nice list but let's hear about why you have Frazier and Tyson listed above Louis.
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Where your own persomal criterea are concerned, you can't be faulted. Any other examples on your heavyweight list?
Well #1 with Ali redeeming himself from the Frazier defeat.

Louis redeeming himself, his race and country from Schmeling is a close #2
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:37 PM   #224
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My top 20

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Sonny Liston
6. George Foreman
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Evander Holyfield
11th. Rocky Marciano
12th. James Jeffries
13th. Jack Dempsey
14th. Gene Tunney
15th. Jersey Joe Walcott
16th. Ezzard Charles
17th. Max Schmelling
18th. Jersey Joe Walcott
19th. Sam Langford
20th. Jack Sharkey
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:42 PM   #225
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My top 20

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Sonny Liston
6. George Foreman
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Evander Holyfield
11th. Rocky Marciano
12th. James Jeffries
13th. Jack Dempsey
14th. Gene Tunney
15th. Jersey Joe Walcott
16th. Ezzard Charles
17th. Max Schmelling
18th. Jersey Joe Walcott
19th. Sam Langford
20th. Jack Sharkey
You have all the right fighters; just they are all pretty much in the wrong place!!!
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