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Old 06-22-2007, 03:39 PM   #46
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Now, you're not saying that Marciano beats Lewis, Foreman, or Tyson, are you?

Have you posted you 10 yet Hank? I bet it would be interesting reading.
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Old 06-22-2007, 03:51 PM   #47
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Hi. I removed the heavyweights who do not belong in a top ten list and put the correct ranking beside their names. It became a top five list.

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1 Muhammad Ali
3 George Foreman
2 Larry Holmes
4 Sonny Liston
5 Mike Tyson
What does your top ten look like Hank?
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Old 06-22-2007, 03:56 PM   #48
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True,

His record was 58-44-10-29, meaning he won about half of his fights. Plus he was Ko'd in the first round on only 7 occasions, which I suppose isn't that many. Therefore, he deserves a far better rating.
I know you to be a staunch Jack Roper fan so you will like what I am going to say.

He was a decent fighter.

Like many guys of the era he made his living by consistently fighting guys who were a bit better than him or a lot better. This was not condusive to a prety record. He did however beat some verry good fighters.

If he was fighting today he would be fed a string of tomato cans and the numbers would look good.
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:14 PM   #49
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What does your top ten look like Hank?
He actually has Buster Douglas on it twice.
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:19 PM   #50
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1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Dempsey
4. Larry Holmes
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Sonny Liston
7. Evander Holyfield
8. George Foreman
9. Joe Frazier
10. Jack Johnson
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:20 PM   #51
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1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Jim Jeffries
7. George Foreman
8. Mike Tyson
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Joe Frazier
12. Evander Holyfield
13. Sonny Liston
14. Joe Walcott
15. Floyd Patterson
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:22 PM   #52
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Hello to all I'm new here,

It was suggested that I should post my top 10 as a way to introduce myself and express my opinions and tastes.

Thought I'd select my heavyweight list for now.

Really like to hear other peoples opinions and there picks also.

Anyway here goes:

1 Muhammad Ali

2 Joe Louis

3 George Foreman

4 Jack Dempsey

5 Larry Holmes

6 Sonny Liston

7 Mike Tyson

8 Jack Johnson

9 Archie Moore

10 Ezzard Charles
Welcome, and a 'unique' list, which is no bad thing; mine goes:

30: Tim Whitherspoon
29: Bob Fitzsimmons
28: Jack Sharkey
27: Sam McVey
26: Joe Jeanette
25: Vitali Klitschko
24: Peter Jackson
23: Ken Norton
22: Joe Walcott (Jersey)
21: Gene Tunney
20: Riddick Bowe
19: Floyd Patterson
18: Max Schmeling
17: Ezzard Charles
16: Sammy Langford
15: Harry Wills
14: James Corbett
13: Sonny Liston
12: Joe Frazier
11: Mike Tyson
10: Lennox Lewis
9 James Jeffries
8: Jack Dempsey
7: Rocky Marciano
6: Evander Holyfield
5: Larry Holmes
4: Jack Johnson
3: George Foreman
2: Joe Louis
1: Muhammad Ali
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:28 PM   #53
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Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Liston, Tyson, Frazier, M. Spinks, Lewis, Norton, and Holyfield.
No Jeffries?

I take it this is head to head?
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:32 PM   #54
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Head to head or in terms of accomplishments Jeffries is nowhere near a proper top 10 list.

But is your list head to head?

BTW, does your disdain for pre-60's fighters extend to other divisions, or is it just a heavyweight thing?
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:45 PM   #55
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But is your list head to head?

BTW, does your disdain for pre-60's fighters extend to other divisions, or is it just a heavyweight thing?
I believe he already answered this question under one of his many screen names.
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:47 PM   #56
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Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Liston, Tyson, Frazier, M. Spinks, Lewis, Norton, and Holyfield.
Some interesting picks to say the least.

Give us your top 20.
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:48 PM   #57
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I believe he already answered this question under one of his many screen names.

Is that for sure?

How many does he have?

I understand him feeling like he needs some back up, he does get swamped a lot. Probably as far as some of this patter goes he's not going to get it from somebody who isn't him.
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:06 PM   #58
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Just add 10 more Ali opponents.
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Old 06-22-2007, 06:13 PM   #59
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1. Jack Dempsey
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Wladimir Klitschko
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Joe Louis
6. George Foreman
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Vitaly Klitschko
9. Larry Holmes
10. Evander Holyfield
11. Jack Johnson
12. James J Jeffries
13. Mike Tyson
14. Sonny Liston
15. Joe Frazier
16. Gene Tunney
17. James J Corbett
18. Bob Fitzsimmons
19. Jersey Joe Walcott
20. Ezzard Charles

This is an interesting list. What is it based on? First glance told me head to head but you have Tyson and Liston to low - but if it's achievment or resume why are the Klitschko's so high?
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Old 06-22-2007, 06:29 PM   #60
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1)Joe Louis
2)Rocky Marciano
3)Ali
4)Dempsey
5)Frazier
6)Foreman
7)Tunney
Jeffries+Johnson
9)Walcott and Charles
10 Lewis,Tyson,Holmes,Holyfield
11)Schmeling,Baer,Liston
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