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Old 08-13-2007, 10:39 AM   #1
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Default fighter/weight/ of the most unbeatable fighter of all time...

id have to say either:

Muhammad Ali pre-prison or
SRR at welterweight
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:48 AM   #2
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Jones at 168 indeed.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:52 AM   #3
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Default Re: fighter/weight/ of the most unbeatable fighter of all time...

SRR at WW
Duran at lightweight
Gomez at 122lbs
Holyfeild at Crusier
RJJ at Super middle
Sal Sanchez at 126
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:15 AM   #4
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Gomez at 122 was one I was thinking about. But about Holyfield, do you not think guys like Charles, Tunney, or Spinks were capable of beating him had they fought there? They fought between 175 and HW because there was no CW(cept for Spinks), but would you say he beats them? And c'mon, Sanchez at 126? I love him too, but c'mon. Also Duran is obviously not unbeatable at LW.
Well Duran was beatable yes but he avenged his losses at that weight class and went on a tear for a while in and around that weight class. Evander was able to hold titles at HW and showed an iron chin....Charles and Tunney where better skill wise but I think Evander would last in a war of attrition. Sanchez well he died in his prime he had all the tools to stay undefeated at 126lbs.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:24 AM   #5
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RJJ at SMW ? 1 Good win makes him unbeatable ? RJJ at LHW was much better.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:05 PM   #6
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Default Re: fighter/weight/ of the most unbeatable fighter of all time...

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id have to say either:

Muhammad Ali pre-prison or
SRR at welterweight
RJJ at 160 or 168 was a boxing god at those weights and IMO would beat anyone in boxing P4P there. The man had power in both hands and could almost KO at will, nobody in history touches him there.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:09 PM   #7
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Jones at 168 indeed.
Yup. No man in history is beating RJJ at 168.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:15 PM   #8
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There are enough guys i would pick to beat him. Monzon, Robinson at mw, Charles, Langford at smw. Jones was great but he was also an underachiever and never really tested. These guys were much more experienced against top-level competition than Jones. That would make a difference.
Robinson at MW beats RJJ that's ridiculous.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:16 PM   #9
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Jones is far from unbeatable at any weight, though 168 has always been weak.

Duran at 135
Monzon at 160
Arguello below 135
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:22 PM   #10
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Roy Jones Jr at 168 and Sugar Ray Robinson at 147, close between them two
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:08 PM   #11
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Evander at cruiser
Hearns at 154
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:34 PM   #12
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Jones at 168 would not have been beaten by Toney, Eubank, McCllelan, Benn, Nunn, Calzaghe, or anyone at that weight...

and Ricardo Lopez proved to be unbeatable at his weight...
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:39 PM   #13
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Louis as pre-war heavyweight champ would be pretty close.

Langford at about 168 would be my other pick, sounds like he was breaking backs.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:53 PM   #14
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Evander at cruiser

Great shout.
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Old 08-13-2007, 05:56 PM   #15
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Yup. No man in history is beating RJJ at 168.
I'd pick Greb, Langford and possibly Robinson to beat him.

50/50's abound, i would bet, Conn, Lloyd Marshall, Moore, Charles, Toney spring to mind straight away.
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