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Old 08-13-2007, 11:04 AM   #1
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1) Who owns the rights to the names and likeness of deceased boxers? Lets say if EA wanted to stick Jack Dempsey in their next game, who would they pay for the right to do so? His grandchilderen or some other family member? Are there any other boxers like Ali, whose name and image was bought?

2) Who owns old fights? Obviously HBO/Showtime and other networks own rights now, and I'm sure the promoters have the same rights to that footage. How about, say, Tex Rickard's fighters? Are they owned by fans? There doesn't seem to be any company making use of their archive, which is a shame. Who do DeAgostini, for example, pay to use that fantastic footage? I take it they don't own it, right?

It's a shame this side of boxing is controlled so poorly. There are millions and millions to be made, and brilliant films for fans to buy, but it seems like no-ones bothered with it.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:07 AM   #2
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2) Who owns old fights? Obviously HBO/Showtime and other networks own rights now, and I'm sure the promoters have the same rights to that footage. How about, say, Tex Rickard's fighters? Are they owned by fans? There doesn't seem to be any company making use of their archive, which is a shame. Who do DeAgostini, for example, pay to use that fantastic footage? I take it they don't own it, right?
Jim Jacobs/Bill Clayton probably had the biggest collection of fight films, they sold up to ESPN some years ago.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:28 AM   #3
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1) Who owns the rights to the names and likeness of deceased boxers? Lets say if EA wanted to stick Jack Dempsey in their next game, who would they pay for the right to do so? His grandchilderen or some other family member? Are there any other boxers like Ali, whose name and image was bought?
if ea wants to add a deceased boxer they need to pay the boxer's son or grandson to do it. and if the boxer is alive, then they need to pay the boxer.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:44 AM   #4
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CMG Worldwide own the rights to Jack Dempsey and are responsible for use of his name/likeness in any commercial fashion
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:56 AM   #5
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1) Who owns the rights to the names and likeness of deceased boxers? Lets say if EA wanted to stick Jack Dempsey in their next game, who would they pay for the right to do so? His grandchilderen or some other family member? Are there any other boxers like Ali, whose name and image was bought?
Often a promotional company will buy up the name from the relatives. I beleive Joe Louis's descendants have sold his name.
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2) Who owns old fights? Obviously HBO/Showtime and other networks own rights now, and I'm sure the promoters have the same rights to that footage. How about, say, Tex Rickard's fighters? Are they owned by fans? There doesn't seem to be any company making use of their archive, which is a shame. Who do DeAgostini, for example, pay to use that fantastic footage? I take it they don't own it, right?
I beleive the only Ali oponent who owns the rights to his fight with Ali is Earnie Shavers.
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Dempsey was used in the first Knockout Kings, 1997 maybe.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:36 PM   #8
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Dempsey was used in the first Knockout Kings, 1997 maybe.
Yeah he's in KK 2001
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Yeah he's in KK 2001
are you serious?
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wow. they really messed joe louis..

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Old 08-13-2007, 05:23 PM   #12
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are you serious?
Yeah he doesn't look like that though.

He has white shorts and brown shoes if memory serves, his fantasy match-up opponent was Frazier
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:26 PM   #13
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This looks like a genetic crossbreed between Patterson and Louis who has took a major LSD overdose.
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it made took so much time but if they put tons of fighters from each class in a game it would be so awesome
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The knockout kings series if pretty funny. I remember playing against a buddy in the open brawl moed with no weght restrictions and he had Butterbean, I had Arron Pryor.

Butterbean put Pryor down twice, then got sparked by the hawk.
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