Why is JC in top 10 on ppls p4p List?

[Kamil]

Explain?

[Sai]

As in Calzaghe? I think its because hes one of the 10 best boxers in the world irrespective of weight class.

[dave82]

I sense China Joe to be here momentarily

[China_hand_Joe]

Originally Posted by Kamil

Explain?

Because Joe Calzaghe is simply too good to be denied his status even with all the anti-european American boxing media propaganda about. He would be undisputibly top 2 were he American.

[PH|LLA]

too stupid a question to answer

[Kamil]

i honestly think Calzaghe hasnt proven enough to be rank so high, maybe top 20 but not top 10

[Kamil]

Originally Posted by Pharaoh

too stupid a question to answer

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[China_hand_Joe]

The only argument to take Calzaghe out of the top 10 is his age.

[GazOC]

Originally Posted by Kamil

i honestly think Calzaghe hasnt proven enough to be rank so high, maybe top 20 but not top 10

Lets hear your Top 20 then...based on 'proven' acomplishments...

[sues2nd]

Originally Posted by China_hand_Joe

Because Joe Calzaghe is simply too good to be denied his status even with all the anti-european American boxing media propaganda about. He would be undisputibly top 2 were he American.

OH GOD....BLAH BLAH BLAH America sucks BLAH BLAH BLAH (another anti american rant from a european....contradiction at its finest)!!!

Listen, I have Calzaghe at 3....because he belongs at 3....no higher. He has had a great run vs subpar competition. He has dominated most of the people he has fought (tho again, the level of that comp was far lower than it ever should have been). He is greatly skilled and is a fun fighter to watch.

He should definately be top10 in everyones list....no doubt about that.

[hopkinsfan07]

he has been on top of the s.middle's for ever

i have him at 6up to 3 if he beats kess

[China_hand_Joe]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

OH GOD....BLAH BLAH BLAH America sucks BLAH BLAH BLAH (another anti american rant from a european....contradiction at its finest)!!!

If we count the number of Europeans listed in lists of the top 100 ATGs it is quite clear an extreme level of bias exists.

Calzaghe - realistically he'll probably drop out of the top 3 in the next twelve months, due to age. Although from 2000 to 2006 he was arguably number one, possibly 2nd behind Roy Jones for a while.

[Kamil]

Originally Posted by GazOC

Lets hear your Top 20 then...based on 'proven' acomplishments...

iight heres my list:

1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Ricky Hatton
5. Wladimir Klitschoko
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Winky Wright
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11. Shane Mosley
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FIXED LIST

my list would be something like this

by the way i dont want to take anything away from JC he is a great skilled fighter no doubt, but his acomplishments arnt enough

[sues2nd]

Originally Posted by Evisceration

This statement is absolutely true.

Cant say I agree. To say that if he was american he would be top 2.....Pacman is not american and he is top 2??? Why, because he earned it.

Now we all know I love Calzaghe, but he has earned his position....bad and good.

[China_hand_Joe]

Originally Posted by Kamil

iight heres my list:

1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Ricky Hatton
4. Manny Pacquiao
5. Wladimir Klitschoko
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Israel Vazquez
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Winky Wright
10. Paul Williams
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12. Shane Mosley
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my list would be something like this

by the way i dont want to take anything away from JC he is a great skilled fighter no doubt, but his acomplishments arnt enough

Surely you can place Calzaghe above Paul Williams based on achievements?