Wilfredo Gomez vs Prince Hasim Hamed

[red cobra]

Another war of Featherweight bombers, scheduled for 15 rounds.

[Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by red cobra

Another war of Featherweight bombers, scheduled for 15 rounds.

Bro it's Naseem not Hasim.

I think Hamed, from the Steve Robinson fight would knock out Gomez.

[red cobra]

Sweetpea, thats probably my mistake, you know, the guy that lost a 12 round decision to Marco Antonio Barerra. My apologies to everyone.

[red cobra]

Wilfredo Gomez, the version from the seventies that is, would torture before he'd execute Naseem. It would go 4 rounds at most. And by the way, Sweet Science, thank you for the correct spelling of his name.

[ayala]

Gomez would knock that boy out silly

[Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by ayala

Gomez would knock that boy out silly

What have you seen of Hamed appart from his loss to Barrera and the few fights in the US when he was nowhere near the fighter he once was. He was once a terror in the ring when he actually trained and didn't let his ego erode his skills by not training. The majority of the people in the US never saw him at his best, yes he was still young when you saw him but I assure you he was nowhere near his brilliant best.

[red cobra]

Gomez was entirely superior to anyone Hamed ever fought, and miles ahead of the Muslim in technique. He would have handed him his head.

[Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by red cobra

Gomez was entirely superior to anyone Hamed ever fought, and miles ahead of the Muslim in technique. He would have handed him his head.

No offence bro but what has Hamed being muslim got to do with anything?

Yes, you are correct Gomez was superior to anything Hamed ever faced. But I don't think Gomez would be able to handle the freakish power of Hamed. Gomez never faced anyone who hit as hard as Hamed. Just out of interest what Hamed fights have you seen? He was amazing before he let his silly big head and ego destroy him.

[red cobra]

Absolutely nothing. No offense was intended, but he is a Muslim, isnt he? Just another description of him as far as I'm concerned, and a fair one. After all he's done his share in his career of popping off about it, and praising Allah, and talking of it in interviews and such. I don't buy into that politically correct garbage anyway that you can't even mention such things as that. When a person wears his religion on his sleeve, as I said, it's fair game, and again, as I said, no offense was meant, and there wasn't, was there?

[red cobra]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

How many Gomez fights have you seen?

If memory serves me correctly, in 1978, Gomez fought and destroyed a far greater fighter in Carlos Zarate who ko'd all but 1 of his total opponents.

[Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by red cobra

Absolutely nothing. No offense was intended, but he is a Muslim, isnt he? Just another description of him as far as I'm concerned, and a fair one. After all he's done his share in his career of popping off about it, and praising Allah, and talking of it in interviews and such. I don't buy into that politically correct garbage anyway that you can't even mention such things as that. When a person wears his religion on his sleeve, as I said, it's fair game, and again, as I said, no offense was meant, and there wasn't, was there?

No offence taken at all, I just wasn't sure why you mentioned it thats all. Wasn't being awkward or anything just wanted to know why. You explained the reason was perfectly in that you were just casually referring to him as a muslim. That's fine. I'm not too politically correct either.

Just out of interest, have you seen any earlier fights from Hamed's career. Say like when he fought Steve Robinson? I don't think they were broadcast in the States.

[Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

How many Gomez fights have you seen?

I have seen a fair few. Including the ones against:

Salvador Sanchez

Azumah Nelson

Kobayashi

Cruz

and others I can't recall

[Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by tobkhan

It wasn´t only his ego, he also got power happy and nearly abendoned his defence for making a good show.

Yes, and the reason he got power happy was his ego. He though he didn't have to train, and that his power would be enough to see him through. Big mistake, lack of training meant his reflexes also suffered as well general sharpness.

[Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by tobkhan

And switching trainer hadn´t helped also, he could have been something special. A bit like Tyson, storywise.

You are 100% correct. Getting rid of Brendan Ingle was a massive mistake, he'd been with Brendan since he was 7 years old. Hamed showed a complete lack of loyalty. He was an extraordinary talent, most people outside of England don't realise how great he could have been. This is simply because they never saw him at his best.

Imagine if you'd only seen Tyson after his prison stint, you wouldn't fully appreciate how good he once was and the extent of the potential he once had and threw away.

[red cobra]

Originally Posted by Sweet Science

No offence taken at all, I just wasn't sure why you mentioned it thats all. Wasn't being awkward or anything just wanted to know why. You explained the reason was perfectly in that you were just casually referring to him as a muslim. That's fine. I'm not too politically correct either.

Just out of interest, have you seen any earlier fights from Hamed's career. Say like when he fought Steve Robinson? I don't think they were broadcast in the States.

Sweet Science, no sir, I haven't seen him against Robinson. He caught my attention I guess when he fought Daniel Alicia in 1996 I think it was. He reminded me not style wise, but of Roy Jones in the way he capitalized on his natural gifts of relex, speed and power, with his punches coming from out of left field and all. That's all well and good against the guys that he fought and won against, but there's no way that any of them share even the same hemisphere with Wilfredo Gomez. Gomez, as I said, kind of unravelled as a fighter after he was trounced finally against Sanchez, but that too is selling him way short, because a year later he won perhaps what was the battle of the decade against Lupe Pintor by ko in 14. It was in the 70's, however that he had it ALL as a fighter. He really executed like an assasin his opponents and set a division record as super-bantamweight champion.