Liston - Is his size... - Page 3

hobgoblin · 08-19-2007, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Exaggerated?

Thoughts? Was he just larger than he really was?

14" is hard to believe..it is a bit of a "stretch".

This is known because police found him exposed in his Las Vegas apparent.

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Originally Posted by Russell

Not quite what comes to mind when I visualize him at times, I'd got to admit.

just kidding...i don't think so...the most important factor about him is that 84" reach - which was real no doubt.

08-19-2007, 07:02 AM

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Sonny seems to be about the 212 - 215 range and i agree, he had enough size to do the job vs most anybody. Tyson was about 216 vs Holmes, Biggs and Tubbs and his size at that point would not hinder him vs anyone in history. Dynamite.

Sonny Liston wouldn't survive in modern boxing.

Duodenum · 08-19-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mcvey

Sonny had a 44 inch chest which, if you are around 6 1 is pretty big by any standards

Hell, I'm not impressed by that in the least. My waist is at least 48 inches, and I'm under 5'6"!

Sincerely,

James Toney

ChrisPontius · 08-19-2007, 07:18 AM

I thought he was 6'0 or 6'0 1/2 actually, and in his fights it looks like that also.

Ted Stickles · 08-19-2007, 08:43 AM

Listons presence made him larger than life

The Whaler · 08-19-2007, 02:47 PM

Liston's presence and power was what made him "huge" in the eyes of the public. He had tremendous punching power, and he carried himself in an intimidating manner. Ask yourself this question: if you stepped into the ring would you rather be looking across at Liston or Jameel McCline? It's the same for Tyson. The guy was 5'10'' and 216 lbs. That's pretty damned small for a modern heavyweight, but people always talk about how powerful and big he was because he had so much power and tried to intimidate his opponents.

Liston also liked to put padding under his robe, which made him look bigger.

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Originally Posted by Marciano Frazier

Liston was 6'1 1/2", and Frazier is 5'11 1/2". That seems like two inches to me.

I think Liston is 6', maybe marginally taller. Ali is 6'3'', and if Lison was truly 6'1.5'' he wouldn't have looked that small against Muhammad.

AnthonyJ74 · 08-19-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marciano Frazier

Liston was 6'1 1/2", and Frazier is 5'11 1/2". That seems like two inches to me.

Liston was listed as being 6 foot even in his Missouri Penitentiary file. It's possible that he was 6'1" with his boxing shoes on.Maybe there was less than 1" between Frazier and Liston.

AnthonyJ74 · 08-19-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Whaler

Liston's presence and power was what made him "huge" in the eyes of the public. He had tremendous punching power, and he carried himself in an intimidating manner. Ask yourself this question: if you stepped into the ring would you rather be looking across at Liston or Jameel McCline? It's the same for Tyson. The guy was 5'10'' and 216 lbs. That's pretty damned small for a modern heavyweight, but people always talk about how powerful and big he was because he had so much power and tried to intimidate his opponents.

Liston also liked to put padding under his robe, which made him look bigger.

I think Liston is 6', maybe marginally taller. Ali is 6'3'', and if Lison was truly 6'1.5'' he wouldn't have looked that small against Muhammad.

I would dispute Ali being 6'3". Both Larry Holmes and George Foreman were listed as 6'3" in their primes, and both of them were taller than Ali. I think Ali was 6'2"; Liston 6'0.

08-19-2007, 05:46 PM

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Ask yourself this question: if you stepped into the ring would you rather be looking across at Liston or Jameel McCline?

The answer is Liston.

fg2227 · 08-19-2007, 05:50 PM

i thought George and holmes were listed as 6, 4

C. M. Clay II · 08-20-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KTFO

Sonny Liston wouldn't survive in modern boxing.

And with posts like that, you won't survive in the classic section!

C. M. Clay II · 08-20-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. magoo

Well, Liston was 6 feet tall and 200 Lbs, which wasn't exactly big even for those days, when you consider that Joe Louis, who came 2 years before Liston was 6'2' and around 205.

Liston was a good 10lbs heavier than Louis anyday. Liston was around 212-215.

fists of fury · 08-20-2007, 03:17 AM

-----------------LISTON----------------------LEWIS

Height:----------6'1"....................................6'5"
Weight:---------214....................................245
Reach-----------84.....................................84
Chest normal:---44......................................44
Waist:----------33......................................34
Biceps:---------16.5....................................17
Neck:-----------17.5...................................18.5
Wrist:-----------8.5....................................8
Calf:------------16.....................................18
Ankle:-----------12.....................................11
Thigh:-----------25.5..................................26
Fist:-------------15....................................12
Forearm:---------14.5..................................15

As you can see from the comparison, Liston compares very well with a modern super heavyweight like Lewis. The big difference is in the height of the two men (which would contribute quite a lot to the weight difference) but if you really look at each measurement in isolation, there isn't that much between them.

08-20-2007, 05:28 AM

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And with posts like that, you won't survive in the classic section!

Just because you say it?

You wanna tell me that he would survive against a Klitschko,Tua,Tyson,Peter etc? The top crop would decapitate Liston.

08-20-2007, 05:30 AM

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As you can see from the comparison, Liston compares very well with a modern super heavyweight like Lewis. The big difference is in the height of the two men (which would contribute quite a lot to the weight difference) but if you really look at each measurement in isolation, there isn't that much between them.

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fists of fury Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: March for Revenge Posts: 10,592 vCash: 1325	Re: Liston - Is his size... -----------------LISTON----------------------LEWIS Height:----------6'1"....................................6'5" Weight:---------214....................................245 Reach-----------84.....................................84 Chest normal:---44......................................44 Waist:----------33......................................34 Biceps:---------16.5....................................17 Neck:-----------17.5...................................18.5 Wrist:-----------8.5....................................8 Calf:------------16.....................................18 Ankle:-----------12.....................................11 Thigh:-----------25.5..................................26 Fist:-------------15....................................12 Forearm:---------14.5..................................15 As you can see from the comparison, Liston compares very well with a modern super heavyweight like Lewis. The big difference is in the height of the two men (which would contribute quite a lot to the weight difference) but if you really look at each measurement in isolation, there isn't that much between them.
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