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Old 02-16-2009, 01:49 PM   #1
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I'm currently taking whey isolate and was wondering if anyone else does?

Do you find it does the job?

What brands do you find the best out there and is it important to mix it up??

Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:38 PM   #2
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I take Isopure once a day in the morning after I run or lift. Its only like 250 calories, has zero carbs, one percent fat, and yet 50 grams of protein a drink. I just mix it with water to watch the calories. Having to make weight a few times a year it really helps not having to worry about its intake and such, yet get lots of protein. I eat about 4 or 5 meals a day besides that too.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:18 PM   #3
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Optimum 100% whey post workout.

Optimum Casein with some cooked oats, or cooked quinoa and a few blueberries or half a banana for meal replacements.

Optimum whey > Isopure
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I take Whey isolate after every training session along with some simple carbs.

I have tried a number of different brands. I personally prefer Optimum Nutrition gold standard whey or PHD pharma whey.
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:42 PM   #5
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Optimum has a great amino profile, is partially digested to quicken absorption, and has aminogen pro biotics to aid in absorption. It may not have the zero carb status as natures best isopure, but the product effectiveness, is better thought out.

50 grams of protein, half of which likely wont be absorbed. The body tends to work best in amounts less than 30 grams per serving.
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:45 PM   #6
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The casein works great as a meal replacement when used with oatmeal or some other complex carb because it is very slow digesting.

So where Whey is more almost instant digested, within half an hour or so, Casein can take up to 6 hours to digest. Making it ideal if you are trying to cut and deal with hunger. Or gain, you can take it at bed time, making notorious catabolic sleep, somewhat anabolic.
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:50 PM   #7
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The more they find out about nutrition, the more these supplements will look like natural food.
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The more they find out about nutrition, the more these supplements will look like natural food.
Really? What natural food acts like predigested whey?

What natural food acts like casein? (other than cottage cheese). Besides, I'd rather have a casein shake, than have cottage cheese.
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Really? What natural food acts like predigested whey?
Who says it should?

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What natural food acts like casein? (other than cottage cheese). Besides, I'd rather have a casein shake, than have cottage cheese.
Casein is an ingredient of cow milk, so I would say milk acts like casein

And why "other than cottage cheese" btw? Why doesn't it count? I'd rather have some cottage cheese with yogurt, an apple and some cinnamon than some refined to death shake that besides some protein offers no nutritional value at all.

Supplements change all the time. This years supplements are "better" than the ones sold last year. The more they find out about nutrition, the more things will be added to supplements, and they will end up with something that resembles the food they were isolating the supplement from in the first place. We are built to our foods specifications not the other way around.
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I don't get the "benefit" of having zero carbs either, I kinda need them.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:15 PM   #11
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Casein is an ingredient of cow milk, so I would say milk acts like casein

And why "other than cottage cheese" btw? Why doesn't it count? I'd rather have some cottage cheese with yogurt, an apple and some cinnamon than some refined to death shake that besides some protein offers no nutritional value at all.

Supplements change all the time. This years supplements are "better" than the ones sold last year. The more they find out about nutrition, the more things will be added to supplements, and they will end up with something that resembles the food they were isolating the supplement from in the first place. We are built to our foods specifications not the other way around.
Whey is part of cows milk too. But cows milk can be broken down into the parts that are very quickly absorbed and digested, as well as the things that take hours upon hours to be absorbed and digested.

It is great to have control over milk.. Instead of having to drink all the lactose sugars, gallons upon gallons of milk in order to get the needed protein is an insane proposition.

You go ahead and eat cottage cheese. Personally, I don't like it much.

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I'm not a bodybuilder, I don't need that much protein in the first place. I also don't see the importance of having it digested within minutes.
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Thanks for all the responses folks.

I've bought Reflex, which seems to have a pretty good write up. I was never a fan of taking ANYTHING but I must admit that my new nutrtional plan, which includes taking whey isolate, is working wonder.
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I'm not a bodybuilder, I don't need that much protein in the first place. I also don't see the importance of having it digested within minutes.
Digesting it quickly after a workout has a huge impact on recovery time, and results.

You might want to read up on it.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:25 PM   #15
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Digesting it quickly after a workout has a huge impact on recovery time, and results.

You might want to read up on it.
For a bodybuilder perhaps, I don't need 30 grams of protein within minutes. My meals contain all kinds of nutrients found in natural food, that aid recovery as well. Nutrients not present in those supplements. My post workout meal contains some protein that digests a bit quicker, and some that takes longer. I think my body is perfectly capable of sorting that out. There's more to nutrition than protein.

My recovery is excellent on natural foods, better than it ever was on supplements. So no thanks, I'll stick to what to me is clearly superior, the real deal.
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