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Old 08-18-2007, 06:16 PM   #1
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Default Fighters that are complete bastards...

And why.

Whether it's being dirty to the point of seriously injuring their opponent, or for what they've done outside the ring, like the sick **** that was Tony Ayala jr.

I've just always found this side of certain boxers interesting, for some reason.

Ron Lyle was inolved in/at the very least in the proximity of two people dying
over the course of his life.

Nigel Benn was a serial rabbit puncher, as seen about 250 times in the McClellan fight. Pretty dirty fighter and not adverse to breaking people down in the ring, soemtimes for good.

Monzon goes without saying.

Muhammed Ali, as Holmes has claimed, **** a snake if you held it down for him. That kind of thing supposedly went on pretty heavily in his training camps. More than likely the reason he was divorced and remarried so many times. Hell, that isn't even Holmes speculating... McIlvanney mentioned this in an article he wrote int he 70's.

Not to mention Ali torturing more than a few guys in the ring for pretty petty reasons. And making Frazier bitter for life after Frazier more or less campaigned for Ali to get back into boxing, even helping him money wise.

Gerald McClellan was involved in dog fighting, or so the rumor goes. Vick style.

What've you got?
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:24 PM   #2
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Hahhaaa, and how exactly does Floyd compare to Monzon?
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:24 PM   #3
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:29 PM   #4
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Sugar Ray Robinson: his last wife should have tortured him with blowtorch & pliers on the patella everyday, Marcellus Wallace style. Because the frequent & brutal beatings he gave his second wife, she had 5 miscarriages. Sad part is, she still loved him and tried to see him when he was sick towards last days of his life but luckily his third wife manipulated him with medications and even stopped him from attending his mother's funeral!
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:31 PM   #5
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Ray beat his wife?
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:03 PM   #6
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Ray beat his wife?
you're obviously sarcastic. yes he did. he brutally & frequently beat all of his wives. he also cheated on them frequently and for doing nothing they got beatdowns so if they protested it was worse. he makes mike tyson look like richard gere's character from dr t & the women (gere plays a guy who showered his wife with so much love that she went insane).
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:04 PM   #7
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Ray beat his wife?
and son. Ray was an asshole outside the ring, he constantly accused his wife of infedility and then beat her for it whilst he himself slept around.
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:15 PM   #8
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Ray Robinson was indeed a total prick, from absolutely everything I've read. Basilio tells about one of his motivations for beating him, when he tried to introduce himself to Ray some time before they fought, and Robinson laughed at him and blew him off as if he was nothing. Carmen hated him from that day on, and wanted to cave his ribs in when they fought.
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:21 PM   #9
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I've heard stories that George Foreman is really a prick underneath his smiling, jovial personality. I actually met George once at a shopping mall where he was hawking his grilling machines. He seemed nice enough, but you could definately tell he was interested in making sales and making money.
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:22 PM   #10
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Rubin "Hurricane" Carter; big fan of the man as a fighter, but outside of the ring I believe he was a truly evil person who happened to get away with triple murder. Cal Deal's Graphic Witness web page is very insightful on this: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:25 PM   #11
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Rubin "Hurricane" Carter; big fan of the man as a fighter, but outside of the ring I believe he was a truly evil person who happened to get away with triple murder. Cal Deal's Graphic Witness web page is very insightful on this: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
I actually don't know much about Carter as I've only seen the movie 'the Hurricane' but didn't he serve time for those crimes, it isn't like he got away with it.
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:34 PM   #12
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I actually don't know much about Carter as I've only seen the movie 'the Hurricane' but didn't he serve time for those crimes, it isn't like he got away with it.
Twenty years in jail isn't enough for triple murder for ****s sake. Carter was never declared innocent; he was simply let loose because of some damn "procedural errors". I recommend reading through that site before making up your mind.
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Twenty years in jail isn't enough for triple murder for ****s sake. Carter was never declared innocent; he was simply let loose because of some damn "procedural errors". I recommend reading through that site before making up your mind.
Thats true, 20 years isn't enough. I was just disputing that he 'got away with it'. Hmm I did just watch that video, seems like pretty solid evidence to convict him with. Do you know what the prosecutors said his motive was?
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Thats true, 20 years isn't enough. I was just disputing that he 'got away with it'. Hmm I did just watch that video, seems like pretty solid evidence to convict him with. Do you know what the prosecutors said his motive was?
"The prosecution believed the murder of bartender Jim Oliver and two of his patrons, were revenge for an earlier slaying that evening of a black bartender by a white man. The black bartender, Leroy Holloway, was the stepfather of one of Carter's friends. This friend, Ed Rawls, was seen together with Carter in the hours before the murders."
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