Mundine v Geale in the works ...breaking news - Page 5

shanemfr · 02-22-2009, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ashley

What do you call world class....top 5....top 10....or top 25?

You even have to ask what world class is, have you ever watched a boxing match other than Mundine?

Francis75 · 02-22-2009, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ashley

What do you call world class....top 5....top 10....or top 25?

Ok Ashley, please tell us who Mundine has ever stopped who was world class. Don't say Sam Soliman because he was never world class.

ashley · 02-22-2009, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shanemfr

Time you leave the forum, you can't even put up a decent case about Mundine

, but he beat Green 3 years ago aye

Dont think so mate....I will still be here next year......and I will be handing you shit about Mundines new paper title as well

So tell me...did you hate Mundine from his first fight?

When did you start to love him?......and when did you get your poster?

Francis75 · 02-22-2009, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ashley

Dont think so mate....I will still be here next year......and I will be handing you shit about Mundines new paper title as well

So tell me...did you hate Mundine from his first fight?

When did you start to love him?......and when did you get your poster?

Ashley, i wish Mundine had your grit and determination in the face of adversity.

mundinechamp · 02-22-2009, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Francis75

So what if Pavlik mentioned Anthony's name. The fight won't happen as Anthony doesn't have the balls or belief in his ability to beat Pavlik, similar to when he wouldn't face Kessler again. Anthony knows deep down that he can't beat these guys so he won't bother but will tell people they aren't offering him (a complete nobody outside Australia) enough $$$ because he is the P4P king. So in Anthony's deluded mind Pavlik/Kessler are ducking him. Anthony has shamefully run once, he will run again.

Mundine not fighting Kessler last year certainly comes across that he ducked him as he was his mandatory. However, if Mundine did fight Kessler there would have been two outcomes:

Win - defend and try unify belts against relatively low profile fighters in Bute, Inkin, Froch, etc. The Kessler win in isolation would be a major triumph however it would be against a Kessler who just lost to Calzaghe. At mid 2008, Calzaghe already went up to LHW sp there was no chance of fighting him.

Lose - decrease of profile drammatically and even if he lost by SD or MD, would still generate a perception as a middle-tier fighter.

By avoiding Kessler / dropping to middleweight, whichever way you see it, Mundine can be really set to achieve big things now. He has had three tune up bouts in a gradual decrease of weight, against limited opposition.
Given Mundine had zero chance in fighting Sturm last year as he had a rematch with Randy Griffin and fight with his mandatory Sylvester, this approach in reflection makes sense.

Therefore, if you look it on face value, Anthony Mundine is now in quite a good position now. He's had 18 months since his major eye injury and has two p4p names in Abraham and Pavlik at the top of the middleweight tree and is mandatory for the other major title holder in Sturm.

A fight with Geale would be a positive for both fighters, Geale for experience and Mundine for title acclaim and tune up for Sturm.

ashley · 02-22-2009, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shanemfr

You even have to ask what world class is, have you ever watched a boxing match other than Mundine?

Its a fair question.....what is world class....top 5 in the world each division...or would you say top 10 out of 1200 fighters are world class....what is it?

Oh and yes I get about 20 PPV each year and watch most FOX nights....I was not happy today that PAV or Cotto missed PPV...even though the fights are one sided I still would have got them.

ipswich express · 02-22-2009, 03:58 AM

Win - Become recognised as the best fighter at 168lbs, setting up a massive pay day with a rubber match against Kessler, or even a fight with Jermain Taylor.

Lose - Earn the respect of all fans by getting in and having a go.

Win/Win for mine...

teke · 02-22-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ashley

Its a fair question.....what is world class....top 5 in the world each division...or would you say top 10 out of 1200 fighters are world class....what is it?

Oh and yes I get about 20 PPV each year and watch most FOX nights....I was not happy today that PAV or Cotto missed PPV...even though the fights are one sided I still would have got them.

Trust me you didnt miss much with these two fights today...both were garbage imo

ashley · 02-22-2009, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by teke

Trust me you didnt miss much with these two fights today...both were garbage imo

Yeah I know but its more about get the mates round...have a BBQ....drink beer......see the fights on the big screen......great day....even if the fights are average its still fun.

mundinechamp · 02-22-2009, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ipswich express

Win - Become recognised as the best fighter at 168lbs, setting up a massive pay day with a rubber match against Kessler, or even a fight with Jermain Taylor.

Lose - Earn the respect of all fans by getting in and having a go.

Win/Win for mine...

Point taken, I wanted to see him take the Kessler fight too.

However, I remember him saying in the past he wanted to be a three division champ and if he beat Kessler he would unlikely travel down to middleweight in the future after such a win, so if he was ever going to travel down to middle, he had to do it then imo.

Also, when it comes to the divisions elite, Middleweight beats Super Middle at the moment and in prestige - a middleweight championship beats a supermiddle championship.

teke · 02-22-2009, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ashley

Yeah I know but its more about get the mates round...have a BBQ....drink beer......see the fights on the big screen......great day....even if the fights are average its still fun.

You're a Queenslander arent you? Where abouts....and dont make me go through the Get to Know Your poster thread

ipswich express · 02-22-2009, 04:17 AM

Middleweight is nowhere near as stacked as Super. However, yes the belt has more of a history to it. I'd settle for Anthony being a legit 1 time champ more than anything else...

ashley · 02-22-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by teke

You're a Queenslander arent you? Where abouts....and dont make me go through the Get to Know Your poster thread

Gold coast mate

teke · 02-22-2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ashley

Gold coast mate

Well if my schedule permits i'd love to watch fights with you, promise i will keep my eyes above board at all times unlike Kegsy

ashley · 02-22-2009, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by teke

Well if my schedule permits i'd love to watch fights with you, promise i will keep my eyes above board at all times unlike Kegsy

Are you gold coast as well?

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ipswich express Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,136 vCash: 75	Re: Mundine v Geale in the works ...breaking news Win - Become recognised as the best fighter at 168lbs, setting up a massive pay day with a rubber match against Kessler, or even a fight with Jermain Taylor. Lose - Earn the respect of all fans by getting in and having a go. Win/Win for mine...
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ipswich express Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,136 vCash: 75	Re: Mundine v Geale in the works ...breaking news Middleweight is nowhere near as stacked as Super. However, yes the belt has more of a history to it. I'd settle for Anthony being a legit 1 time champ more than anything else...
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