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Old 08-19-2007, 10:49 AM   #1
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I know Jersey Ko'd Johnson.
But Who do you feel was the better pure boxer & why.
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:14 AM   #2
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I know Jersey Ko'd Johnson.
But Who do you feel was the better pure boxer & why.
I believe Johnson had an injury going into the Walcott fight and collapsed under unusual circumstances without being hit.

Who was the better boxer is hard to say. Technique wise, Johnson was a true master. One famous trainer ( Could have been Futch ) said Johnson was the finest technician he ever saw. Johnson had a great jab, and great technical defense.

Walcott was equally brilliant, but his technique was not as text book rather it was something he developed by himself over many years being in the gym. Walcott had flashy ring skills. He moved around the ring with great grace, could avoid punches, and was skilled at the art of setting up his offense. Walcott was a true ring magician. Walcott had the ability to feint a man with various parts of his body, and counter left hook. Walcott hook was a very accurate and hard punch. Another trick of Walcott how he set up his right hand. Much like Joe Louis, Walcott was skilled at getting the other fighter to walk into his punches. The difference between Walcott and Louis was Walcott was even more skilled at dangling the carrot. Walcott mastered a technique where he would appear to moving backwards, and when the other fighter was giving chase, Walcott would time him with a solid right. Somehow Walcott was able to stop on a time, keep his balance, and shift his weight into the punch of his unsuspecting opponent. The move was done with great speed.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:04 PM   #3
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I am going to see Harold today.
I will ask him if he remembers anything about the Walcott fight.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:45 PM   #4
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anyone else?
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I am going to see Harold today.
I will ask him if he remembers anything about the Walcott fight.
You know Harold Johnson?
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You know Harold Johnson?
Yes
I visit him @ the vets home.
I burn dvd's of his fights for everyone to watch & I bring him some of his favorite foods once or twice a month.
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I visit him @ the vets home.
I burn dvd's of his fights for everyone to watch & I bring him some of his favorite foods once or twice a month.
Thats mighty good of you.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:43 PM   #8
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Hes such a sweet man I cant resist.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:03 AM   #9
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I was hoping more old timers would weight in on this.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:12 AM   #10
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But Who do you feel was the better pure boxer & why.

Very good but also difficult question, IMO Johnson was the better pure boxer, he had the better skills, but Walcott´s style was more tricky, and pretty unortodox, that means that it could also have been a bit more effective...
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I believe Johnson had an injury going into the Walcott fight and collapsed under unusual circumstances without being hit.

Who was the better boxer is hard to say. Technique wise, Johnson was a true master. One famous trainer ( Could have been Futch ) said Johnson was the finest technician he ever saw. Johnson had a great jab, and great technical defense.

Walcott was equally brilliant, but his technique was not as text book rather it was something he developed by himself over many years being in the gym. Walcott had flashy ring skills. He moved around the ring with great grace, could avoid punches, and was skilled at the art of setting up his offense. Walcott was a true ring magician. Walcott had the ability to feint a man with various parts of his body, and counter left hook. Walcott hook was a very accurate and hard punch. Another trick of Walcott how he set up his right hand. Much like Joe Louis, Walcott was skilled at getting the other fighter to walk into his punches. The difference between Walcott and Louis was Walcott was even more skilled at dangling the carrot. Walcott mastered a technique where he would appear to moving backwards, and when the other fighter was giving chase, Walcott would time him with a solid right. Somehow Walcott was able to stop on a time, keep his balance, and shift his weight into the punch of his unsuspecting opponent. The move was done with great speed.
Actually, Johnson didn't enter their fight with an injury. He suffered the injury when he was knocked down at the end of the second round and collapsed as a result during the third.
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