The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) ***UPDATED/VIDEO*** - Page 119

arve lie · 06-25-2011, 07:08 PM

Remember that Rigondeaux style and talent prevent him from taking those punches most fighters do. As long as his reflexes and speed there no worry. Three fights a year i say, nobody on top level have 6-8 fights a year.

arve lie · 06-25-2011, 08:42 PM

If Rigo can keep the belt/win more belt for three years he could be in 10 worldtitle-fights and thats not bad ?

Cubanborn87 · 06-25-2011, 09:21 PM

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynJLlHsxM2E&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

arve lie · 06-26-2011, 08:26 AM

Yordenis Ugas (8-0, 4 KOs) scored a si round unanimous decision over Kenny Abril (11-4-1, 6 KOs). Ugas dropped Abril in round four en route to a 59-54, 59-55, 60-53 win.

arve lie · 06-26-2011, 08:37 AM

The three fights Socarraz been in the three guys statistics: debutant,debutant, 1-4.
Next time Socarraz should get somebody little more experience.
We saw him spar Salinas on video and no doubt he is ready to go more rounds.

robg · 06-27-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by arve lie

Yordenis Ugas (8-0, 4 KOs) scored a si round unanimous decision over Kenny Abril (11-4-1, 6 KOs). Ugas dropped Abril in round four en route to a 59-54, 59-55, 60-53 win.

Was this on FOX? I set up my burner to record this show. I was all excited to watch it just now and I ended up getting last weeks show with Miguel Vazquez. What the hell happened!?

arve lie · 06-30-2011, 08:17 AM

Unbeaten heavyweight Mike Perez is eager for a fight. Any fight, actually. “I only need to get the chance,” Perez (16-0, 12 KOs) explained this week. “I need a chance. I know I’m one of the best heavyweights…I just need to prove it.”
according to Perez and his team, the impressive showings haven’t led to any bigger opportunities.

“Nobody wants to fight,” said Colin Morgan, Perez’s trainer. “We’re trying to get a fight and we’re ready to fight anyone,” said Morgan. Perez’s trainer mentioned any heavyweight from the winner of the upcoming Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye bout to rising heavyweight Seth Mitchell as a potential opponent for his charge
As for a rumored fight with former heavyweight title challenger Fres Oquendo, Perez says he’s game. “I would fight Fres anytime. Just send the contract.”

boxeo#1 · 06-30-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by arve lie

Unbeaten heavyweight Mike Perez is eager for a fight. Any fight, actually. “I only need to get the chance,” Perez (16-0, 12 KOs) explained this week. “I need a chance. I know I’m one of the best heavyweights…I just need to prove it.”
according to Perez and his team, the impressive showings haven’t led to any bigger opportunities.

“Nobody wants to fight,” said Colin Morgan, Perez’s trainer. “We’re trying to get a fight and we’re ready to fight anyone,” said Morgan. Perez’s trainer mentioned any heavyweight from the winner of the upcoming Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye bout to rising heavyweight Seth Mitchell as a potential opponent for his charge
As for a rumored fight with former heavyweight title challenger Fres Oquendo, Perez says he’s game. “I would fight Fres anytime. Just send the contract.”

Who's managing Perez? Dude's not even in the top 18 of neither the EBU nor EBA

BigBone · 06-30-2011, 09:23 AM

Socarras has Gamboaesque power. Don't expect him fighting a live body anytime soon though, the first dozen fights will be about building reputation and gaining experience mostly in the gym. He's just 18, no reason to rush the kid or expect anything serious before 2013.

arve lie · 06-30-2011, 12:12 PM

Agree about not rushing Socarraz but somebody with a 2-5, 4-7 record or something like that should be a development.

eggboxer · 06-30-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by boxeo#1

Who's managing Perez? Dude's not even in the top 18 of neither the EBU nor EBA

not eligible for ebu yet anyway
not sure about eba

arve lie · 06-30-2011, 04:53 PM

The trio in Irland all three high in Boxrec pointsystem

Garcia 202 points number 13 in lightheavy (but im sure he is super middle)
Perez 228 points number 25 heavy
Collado Acosta 89 points 49 super bantam

Many cubans ranked already
Many have about 100 points and ranked top 15 (Franco;Dortico,Jhonson,Barrera,Abril)
in IBF,WBA or WBC. Seems like
Patrick Hamish Thomas the trios manager in Irland need better connections.

realdeal561 · 06-30-2011, 05:36 PM

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Explosive. I like what i see from Hairon so far. If he fights in Florida again i wont miss the chance of seeing him live.

boxeo#1 · 07-01-2011, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by eggboxer

not eligible for ebu yet anyway
not sure about eba

Not eligible anyway for what? To be ranked?

What I was trying to say is that he's not even ranked at the domestic level so he should STFU and make some impact there first.

Cubanborn87 · 07-09-2011, 07:03 AM

Ponce de Leon vs Gamboa is official

The Top Rank-Golden Boy cold war, which has robbed boxing fans of several marquee matchups during the past two years, is effectively over now that boxing's leading promotional companies, long bitter rivals, have reached an agreement to match featherweights Yuriorkis Gamboa and Daniel Ponce De Leon on Sept. 10 in Atlantic City, N.J., in an HBO main event.

The fight pits the speedy and powerful Gamboa (Top Rank's fighter) against the slower but huge-punching Ponce De Leon, a former junior featherweight titlist, in one of the better matchups that can be made at 126 pounds.

Top Rank's Carl Moretti and Golden Boy's Eric Gomez negotiated the deal, and now the sides are exchanging paperwork.

"We sent them a provision of services agreement for Ponce De Leon," Moretti said, "and they will send it back with their comments, but I don't see any major changes."

But making the deal -- even discussing a deal for this fight or any other -- was not possible until the companies put to rest their nasty feud, which they did in late May.

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That is when, for the second time, mediator Daniel Weinstein, a retired federal judge, helped them settle many of their issues.

The key one was the settlement of the defamation lawsuit filed by Manny Pacquiao, Top Rank's biggest star, against Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya in December 2009 regarding their alleged accusations that Pacquiao used performance-enhancing drugs.

Gamboa-Ponce De Leon will be the first fight the companies have done together since the Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton junior welterweight title fight in May 2009. After that, it was all downhill, culminating in Pacquiao's lawsuit and an inability for the companies to finalize a Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight.

When the parties met with Weinstein in late May to finalize the terms of the settlement, which included an apology to Pacquiao and the dropping of the lawsuit, Schaefer and Top Rank's Bob Arum agreed they would once again make fights together.

"Frankly, before the resolution and the apology, I had no interest in dealing with them because I thought it would be disrespectful to Manny Pacquiao, who I really admire," Arum told ESPN.com. "But once there was an apology and the settlement of the defamation suit, there was no longer an impediment. We shook hands and we will deal with them like we deal with any other promoter. If they need one of our fighters and the management of that fighter is willing, we are very happy to do it, and vice versa if we want to use one of their fighters and they are willing. Why not?"

Schaefer, who has exchanged brutal words with Arum through the media, took the same tone.

"I am looking forward to working with Top Rank on this promotion," Schaefer said. "Bob and I shook hands and made a commitment to work together again if the right fight presents itself. This is the case here. With Gamboa you have a young, emerging star with considerable talent, and with Ponce De Leon you have one of the hardest-hitting guys in the sport, who is always involved in exciting fights. Styles make fights, and I am sure that this will be an all-out slugfest. Can't wait!"

Even after the settlement, Moretti still wasn't sure if he could pursue a fight with Golden Boy, but he knew he had a date for Gamboa on HBO and wanted to make a strong matchup.

"Really, the only question was to ask Bob and [Top Rank president] Todd [duBoef] if they had any issues with me offering the fight to Ponce De Leon and Golden Boy," Moretti said. "They said, 'Not at all, just do it the same way we do any deal. If they agree, fine. If they don't, fine.' But it had nothing to do with them being Golden Boy and us being Top Rank. I got the green light and reached out to Eric, and I know Richard called Bob and said, 'It's great we're going to do this fight together.'"

Moretti said there are plenty of other fights the companies could do together. One he would like to make is between junior welterweights Mike Alvarado, who is with Top Rank, and Golden Boy's Lucas Matthysse.

"Hey, we're getting good money from HBO and we wanted to put on the best fight that is possible, and when we looked around, Ponce De Leon was preferable to almost anybody we could get," Arum said. "Orlando Salido and Juan Manuel Lopez are tied up. Mikey Garcia, I think, needs a couple of more fights before he fights Gamboa, so Ponce De Leon was the best guy around, and he happens to be with Golden Boy."

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arve lie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,316 vCash: 500	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO Remember that Rigondeaux style and talent prevent him from taking those punches most fighters do. As long as his reflexes and speed there no worry. Three fights a year i say, nobody on top level have 6-8 fights a year.
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06-25-2011, 08:42 PM	#1772
arve lie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,316 vCash: 500	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO If Rigo can keep the belt/win more belt for three years he could be in 10 worldtitle-fights and thats not bad ?
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Cubanborn87 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Durham, North Carolina Posts: 1,087 vCash: 1000	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynJLlHsxM2E&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
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06-26-2011, 08:26 AM	#1774
arve lie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,316 vCash: 500	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO Yordenis Ugas (8-0, 4 KOs) scored a si round unanimous decision over Kenny Abril (11-4-1, 6 KOs). Ugas dropped Abril in round four en route to a 59-54, 59-55, 60-53 win.
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06-26-2011, 08:37 AM	#1775
arve lie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,316 vCash: 500	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO The three fights Socarraz been in the three guys statistics: debutant,debutant, 1-4. Next time Socarraz should get somebody little more experience. We saw him spar Salinas on video and no doubt he is ready to go more rounds.
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06-30-2011, 08:17 AM	#1777
arve lie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,316 vCash: 500	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO Unbeaten heavyweight Mike Perez is eager for a fight. Any fight, actually. “I only need to get the chance,” Perez (16-0, 12 KOs) explained this week. “I need a chance. I know I’m one of the best heavyweights…I just need to prove it.” according to Perez and his team, the impressive showings haven’t led to any bigger opportunities. “Nobody wants to fight,” said Colin Morgan, Perez’s trainer. “We’re trying to get a fight and we’re ready to fight anyone,” said Morgan. Perez’s trainer mentioned any heavyweight from the winner of the upcoming Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye bout to rising heavyweight Seth Mitchell as a potential opponent for his charge As for a rumored fight with former heavyweight title challenger Fres Oquendo, Perez says he’s game. “I would fight Fres anytime. Just send the contract.”
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06-30-2011, 09:23 AM	#1779
BigBone It was man, it fuckin was East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 37,026 vCash: 1000	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO Socarras has Gamboaesque power. Don't expect him fighting a live body anytime soon though, the first dozen fights will be about building reputation and gaining experience mostly in the gym. He's just 18, no reason to rush the kid or expect anything serious before 2013.
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06-30-2011, 12:12 PM	#1780
arve lie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,316 vCash: 500	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO Agree about not rushing Socarraz but somebody with a 2-5, 4-7 record or something like that should be a development.
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06-30-2011, 04:53 PM	#1782
arve lie Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,316 vCash: 500	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO The trio in Irland all three high in Boxrec pointsystem Garcia 202 points number 13 in lightheavy (but im sure he is super middle) Perez 228 points number 25 heavy Collado Acosta 89 points 49 super bantam Many cubans ranked already Many have about 100 points and ranked top 15 (Franco;Dortico,Jhonson,Barrera,Abril) in IBF,WBA or WBC. Seems like Patrick Hamish Thomas the trios manager in Irland need better connections.
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07-09-2011, 07:03 AM	#1785
Cubanborn87 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Durham, North Carolina Posts: 1,087 vCash: 1000	Re: The Future of CUBA in the Pros, by Weightclasses. (List Inside) **UPDATED/VIDEO Ponce de Leon vs Gamboa is official The Top Rank-Golden Boy cold war, which has robbed boxing fans of several marquee matchups during the past two years, is effectively over now that boxing's leading promotional companies, long bitter rivals, have reached an agreement to match featherweights Yuriorkis Gamboa and Daniel Ponce De Leon on Sept. 10 in Atlantic City, N.J., in an HBO main event. The fight pits the speedy and powerful Gamboa (Top Rank's fighter) against the slower but huge-punching Ponce De Leon, a former junior featherweight titlist, in one of the better matchups that can be made at 126 pounds. Top Rank's Carl Moretti and Golden Boy's Eric Gomez negotiated the deal, and now the sides are exchanging paperwork. "We sent them a provision of services agreement for Ponce De Leon," Moretti said, "and they will send it back with their comments, but I don't see any major changes." But making the deal -- even discussing a deal for this fight or any other -- was not possible until the companies put to rest their nasty feud, which they did in late May. Rafael's boxing blog Rafael Get the latest scoop and analysis on the world of boxing from ESPN.com's Dan Rafael in his blog. That is when, for the second time, mediator Daniel Weinstein, a retired federal judge, helped them settle many of their issues. The key one was the settlement of the defamation lawsuit filed by Manny Pacquiao, Top Rank's biggest star, against Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya in December 2009 regarding their alleged accusations that Pacquiao used performance-enhancing drugs. Gamboa-Ponce De Leon will be the first fight the companies have done together since the Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton junior welterweight title fight in May 2009. After that, it was all downhill, culminating in Pacquiao's lawsuit and an inability for the companies to finalize a Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight. When the parties met with Weinstein in late May to finalize the terms of the settlement, which included an apology to Pacquiao and the dropping of the lawsuit, Schaefer and Top Rank's Bob Arum agreed they would once again make fights together. "Frankly, before the resolution and the apology, I had no interest in dealing with them because I thought it would be disrespectful to Manny Pacquiao, who I really admire," Arum told ESPN.com. "But once there was an apology and the settlement of the defamation suit, there was no longer an impediment. We shook hands and we will deal with them like we deal with any other promoter. If they need one of our fighters and the management of that fighter is willing, we are very happy to do it, and vice versa if we want to use one of their fighters and they are willing. Why not?" Schaefer, who has exchanged brutal words with Arum through the media, took the same tone. "I am looking forward to working with Top Rank on this promotion," Schaefer said. "Bob and I shook hands and made a commitment to work together again if the right fight presents itself. This is the case here. With Gamboa you have a young, emerging star with considerable talent, and with Ponce De Leon you have one of the hardest-hitting guys in the sport, who is always involved in exciting fights. Styles make fights, and I am sure that this will be an all-out slugfest. Can't wait!" Even after the settlement, Moretti still wasn't sure if he could pursue a fight with Golden Boy, but he knew he had a date for Gamboa on HBO and wanted to make a strong matchup. "Really, the only question was to ask Bob and [Top Rank president] Todd [duBoef] if they had any issues with me offering the fight to Ponce De Leon and Golden Boy," Moretti said. "They said, 'Not at all, just do it the same way we do any deal. If they agree, fine. If they don't, fine.' But it had nothing to do with them being Golden Boy and us being Top Rank. I got the green light and reached out to Eric, and I know Richard called Bob and said, 'It's great we're going to do this fight together.'" Moretti said there are plenty of other fights the companies could do together. One he would like to make is between junior welterweights Mike Alvarado, who is with Top Rank, and Golden Boy's Lucas Matthysse. "Hey, we're getting good money from HBO and we wanted to put on the best fight that is possible, and when we looked around, Ponce De Leon was preferable to almost anybody we could get," Arum said. "Orlando Salido and Juan Manuel Lopez are tied up. Mikey Garcia, I think, needs a couple of more fights before he fights Gamboa, so Ponce De Leon was the best guy around, and he happens to be with Golden Boy."
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