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Old 07-12-2011, 08:37 PM   #1816
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Cubans in action:
july 29 Despaigne-Miranda
August 12 Ortiz, Salinas,Barrera,Savigne,Abril,Yoelvis Gamboa
August 13 Ugas
August 19 ? Rigondeaux
August 27 YP Hernandez- Jones
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:51 PM   #1817
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After the controversial decision handed down in Atlantic City on Saturday night, Erislandy Lara and his team are hoping to get a rematch against former world champion Paul Williams. “It was a good fight, but I don’t know what the judges saw,” said Lara. “I definitely want the rematch with Williams.” Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer added “We hope that Williams and his promoter Dan Goossen will give Lara a much-deserved rematch to settle the controversy that has erupted since Saturday night’s decision. If Williams chooses not to fight Lara again, Erislandy is ready to fight anyone, anywhere and at any time and we will make sure they he gets the opportunities he deserves in the wake of his spectacular performance in Atlantic City.”

Lara, who suffered a small facial fracture in the bout which caused noticeable swelling during the bout, will not be able to train for six to eight weeks
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:25 PM   #1818
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“I definitely want the rematch with Williams.” Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer added “We hope that Williams and his promoter Dan Goossen will give Lara a much-deserved rematch to settle the controversy that has erupted since Saturday night’s decision. If Williams chooses not to fight Lara again, Erislandy is ready to fight anyone, anywhere and at any time and we will make sure they he gets the opportunities he deserves in the wake of his spectacular performance in Atlantic City.”
All of the above is bullshit they want Lara out of the picture that is why they feed him to Williams they never thought that he will whoop Williams a$$, and you may ask yourself why? And the answer is simple, Canelo, they promote Saul career and is their current cash cow one that is in the same weight division than Lara who was moving up in the rankings and could had been a #1 contender within a year, I guess the strategy backfired.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:30 PM   #1819
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“I definitely want the rematch with Williams.” Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer added “We hope that Williams and his promoter Dan Goossen will give Lara a much-deserved rematch to settle the controversy that has erupted since Saturday night’s decision. If Williams chooses not to fight Lara again, Erislandy is ready to fight anyone, anywhere and at any time and we will make sure they he gets the opportunities he deserves in the wake of his spectacular performance in Atlantic City.”
All of the above is bullshit they want Lara out of the picture that is why they feed him to Williams they never thought that he will whoop Williams a$$, and you may ask yourself why? And the answer is simple, Canelo, they promote Saul career and is their current cash cow one that is in the same weight division than Lara who was moving up in the rankings and could had been a #1 contender within a year, I guess the strategy backfired.
Similar to what happened with Ortiz.

They fed him to Berto after a horrible performance. Ortiz whooped that ass to Golden Boy's surprise. After Lara's horrible performance against Molina they fed him to PW, and Lara did the same thing. Whooped that ass. But hey, its better this way than to feed them to sum bums after a bad performance. At least this way they get a chance to prove if they are man enough for the top dogs in the division.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:46 PM   #1820
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Ramos vs Rigondeaux would be a good fight. I just hope it would post some actions
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:48 PM   #1821
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Ramos vs Rigondeaux would be a good fight. I just hope it would post some actions
I think it will have action. After Rigo's boring fight with Cordoba, i guess they told him he cant do that anymore and came out aggressive against Casey and finished him off. He could have easily just cruised to a UD but Rigo decided to throw hard bombs in there.
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Old 07-13-2011, 11:52 AM   #1822
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Cuban junior middleweight Erislandy Lara has a small facial fracture that will sideline him six to eight weeks according to a reliable source. Lara, who suffered the injury in a clash of heads with Paul Williams, was taken after the fight to a hospital to be checked and it appears that the fracture is not serious but Lara need rest and recovery time. He returned from Atlantic City to Miami by car on doctor’s orders. Many media have begun to project that Lara can be a strong opponent for the WBC super welterweight world champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez. Other options are WBO Sergei Dzinziruk or a possible rematch with Williams, who won a controversial majority decision Saturday night
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:31 PM   #1823
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Rigondeaux-Donaire after cleaning up the 122 division. Arce,Vasquez jr, Ramos,Nishioka many good fights !!! Guess some of them move up to126 to avoid Rigo/Don
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:50 PM   #1824
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We finally reached Aaron Davis today and he cleared a lot of the smoke that appeared around the judging of the Paul Williams-Erislandy Lara bout this past Saturday evening including whom it was that was seated next to Judge Hilton Whitaker II that evening.

“That was me, the good looking one in the blue shirt and suit” Davis informed us.

This is the total opposite of what eyewitnesses confirmed through photos sent to them via the internet.

Mr. Davis apologized that the SACB website opens up to boxrec.com which until Monday had Whitaker III as judging the bout.

With regard to the way Whitaker Jr. was holding what appears to be his scorecard all evening, Mr. Davis went on to inform me that

“Whitaker Jr. Uses a bout sheet to cover his official scorecard so no one can read it, so what in fact you see is the bout sheet covering the scorecard”

Davis also discussed with us the judging of the fight including the amount of even rounds that were scored.

“I am going to meet with the judges and discuss this bout with them and the judging, then we will see what comes about, there were to many even rounds to my liking. We will see what to results are of that meeting whether it may mean some suspensions or revocations, we shall see.”

Several of my friends inside of boxing have vouched for the integrity of the Whitakers, Jr. and Hilton Whitaker the third..

Seems hundreds of websites and reporters, including Boxrec.com got the name of the judge wrong which started this ball rolling, and eyewitness accounts extended what may prove to be an error.

It by no means changes the fact that this bout was judged incorrectly, that perhaps some poor judgment was used in the choice of judges, and that SACB needs to be responsible when allowing results to be posted from their site wrong.

So to sum this all up , we have Aaron Davis stating it was him at ringside, we have Whitaker III saying he was not the judge (as we know) and was not in Atlantic City at the time of bout, we have Luis DeCubas Jr. saying that he was, we have Davis stating that Whitaker II uses a bout sheet to cover judges score sheet while he is waving it around with promoter behind him (though we can’t tell what covers what),we have other reports saying Whitaker III was present, and we still have one of the worse judged fights in recorded history that continues to stink up the sport

To date nothing is being done to correct that fact, now if someone wants to come forward and say that the scores were a mistaken identity as well, that Lara won the fight, as we all know then even better
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:50 PM   #1825
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all 3 judges have been suspended
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Old 07-15-2011, 06:52 AM   #1826
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“I definitely want the rematch with Williams.” Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer added “We hope that Williams and his promoter Dan Goossen will give Lara a much-deserved rematch to settle the controversy that has erupted since Saturday night’s decision. If Williams chooses not to fight Lara again, Erislandy is ready to fight anyone, anywhere and at any time and we will make sure they he gets the opportunities he deserves in the wake of his spectacular performance in Atlantic City.”
All of the above is bullshit they want Lara out of the picture that is why they feed him to Williams they never thought that he will whoop Williams a$$, and you may ask yourself why? And the answer is simple, Canelo, they promote Saul career and is their current cash cow one that is in the same weight division than Lara who was moving up in the rankings and could had been a #1 contender within a year, I guess the strategy backfired.
Exactly , I was never impresed with Lara's signing with GBP , specially with all the money they have invested in Canelo , they want Lara to be their no 2 option in the 154 divition and the Molina draw kind of emphasized it in their eyes , they never expected Lara to defeat Williams and now they have a dilema . For any other Promotion Company ( Top Rank , etc ) this would be a very nice dilema to have but not for GBP , their style of Promotion is a bit biased in a way ( IMO ) , they will never risk Canelo against good fighters , all his bouts have been against tomato cans and Lara have now proved that he belongs up there with the best so as much as we fans would like to see him fighting Lara Im afraid it will never happen . Shit Im sure they won't even take a risk against Molina ! They've been cherrypicking his oponents from the begining and that won't change now , I've said it before and I say it now : Saul " Canelo " Alvarez is the most overrated boxer in the game right now . Peace.
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:33 AM   #1827
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Ramos-Rigondeaux coming soon

Newly crowned junior featherweight titlist Rico Ramos probably won't have a lot of time to enjoy his belt before he must face what figures to be a very tough mandatory fight against interim titlist Guillermo Rigondeaux.

Ramos (20-0, 11 KOs) won the 122-pound belt when, trailing widely on all three scorecards, he scored a one-punch knockout of Japan's Akifumi Shimoda (23-3-1, 10 KOs) in the seventh round last Saturday in Atlantic City, N.J., in his HBO debut. Part of the deal Rigondeaux (8-0, 6 KOs), the two-time Cuban Olympic gold medalist, worked out to allow Ramos-Shimoda to take place was that the winner would be contractually obligated to face him in his first defense.

"I stepped aside and let the fight go ahead, even though they ignored the fact that I was next in line," Rigondeaux said. "Ramos will soon regret that he won the title when we get it on. Ramos is a tough, aggressive fighter, but those types of fighters suit me. I promise he will not have enough time to enjoy this victory, because I will be taking that belt from him when we meet in the ring. My goal is to be the undisputed 122-pound world champion and I want to achieve this goal by the end of 2012."

Rigondeaux, considered one of the greatest amateurs ever, won an interim belt in only his seventh professional bout.

Rigondeaux was going to fight a nontitle bout on the season finale of ESPN2/ESPN3's "Friday Night Fights" on Aug. 19, but co-promoter Luis DeCubas Sr. could not secure a site that made financial sense. There is a slim possibility that Rigondeaux may instead fight on the Aug. 12 edition of FNF.
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:42 PM   #1828
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I have a theory that experienced cubans like Rigondeaux and Lara not gonna get into fights with young ,talentet ,ticketsellers, beltholders like Ramos and Canelo. The cubans too good, promotors lose money. The cubans dont sell tickets or PPV. They have to work
hard and get a reputation so they cant be avoided. Lara did move his reputation in the right direction last week, no doubt.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:34 PM   #1829
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I have a theory that experienced cubans like Rigondeaux and Lara not gonna get into fights with young ,talentet ,ticketsellers, beltholders like Ramos and Canelo. The cubans too good, promotors lose money. The cubans dont sell tickets or PPV. They have to work
hard and get a reputation so they cant be avoided. Lara did move his reputation in the right direction last week, no doubt.
I totally agree.
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Old 07-15-2011, 07:02 PM   #1830
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Cuban junior middleweight Erislandy Lara has a small facial fracture that will sideline him six to eight weeks according to a reliable source. Lara, who suffered the injury in a clash of heads with Paul Williams, was taken after the fight to a hospital to be checked and it appears that the fracture is not serious but Lara need rest and recovery time. He returned from Atlantic City to Miami by car on doctor’s orders. Many media have begun to project that Lara can be a strong opponent for the WBC super welterweight world champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez. Other options are WBO Sergei Dzinziruk or a possible rematch with Williams, who won a controversial majority decision Saturday night
He doesn't have any facial fracture and GBP and Canelo will run for thair life is they had to put the red against Lara or any other fighter that could give him fist.
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