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Old 02-27-2009, 07:59 AM   #46
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The only reason to have him top3 is 'because he looked bad ass smashing Willard across the ring'. I thin hes top3 fun to watch HWs
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:00 AM   #47
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Conn would get destroyed. He was the perfect man to tackle Louis, with that beautiful plan, but you can't control the range against Dempsey with tactics like those. Early KO. Spinks would go the same way he went against Mike.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:00 AM   #48
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A few places outside of the top 10, just behind Foreman (who also doesn't make my 10).
What is your top 10?
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:00 AM   #49
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The only reason to have him top3 is 'because he looked bad ass smashing Willard across the ring'
Yeah.

He did look badass though.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:14 AM   #50
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dempsey wouldn't see the second round against foreman and liston
holmes would bust him up.frazire would enjoy nay love getting it on with dempsey.
dempsey improved a lot between his pub fight with willard and his two losses to tunney but he's still only a small cruiser-weight
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:15 AM   #51
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Improved after Willard? What, in terms of handspeed, accuracy, footwork, timing? Are you crazy? Demspey was brilliant in that fight. I think you're thinking about Dempsey harpooning the whale that was a hurt Willard rather than the process by which Dempsey got there.

He was brilliant that day.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:20 AM   #52
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it was a crap fight and bold bendigo would have been ashamed
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You've made a serious mistake and you should look again. It's an extraordinary performance. One of the best in ring history, if we're not considering the quality of the opponent.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:27 AM   #54
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i saw it years ago. i think it was on parkinson,the carpentier fight too.
it was when dempsey said louis joe louis was glass chinned that my dad nearly smashed our tv to bits.joe louis and tom finney were his gods
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when dempsey said louis joe louis was glass chinned that my dad nearly smashed our tv to bits.


Did Jack really say that?
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:33 AM   #56
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YES
what do you reckon louis V dempsey
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:38 AM   #57
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I like Louis. I think Dempsey over-extends a bit when he misses, I think Louis would have more success at bringing him on and really hurting him than vice-versa. I take Louis on a stoppage.

No way would Jack have come through that Firpo hurt if Louis was the man in the ring with him.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:41 AM   #58
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I like Louis. I think Dempsey over-extends a bit when he misses, I think Louis would have more success at bringing him on and really hurting him than vice-versa. I take Louis on a stoppage.

No way would Jack have come through that Firpo hurt if Louis was the man in the ring with him.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:09 AM   #59
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i saw it years ago. i think it was on parkinson,the carpentier fight too.
Most of the film of Dempsey is of verry poor quality and gives a misleading picture.

When you see Dempsey Willard with the timing corected for the first time (having only seen the other version previously) it is like a revalation.

Dempsey looks almost like a 190 lb version of Duran and even Willard looks better than you expect.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:12 AM   #60
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Dempsey looks extraordinary in that fight whatever the speed of the film. It's this weird epiphany when you suddenly realise the first 90 seconds are more impressive than the second ninety seconds, even though that's what's been causing your jaw to drop these past ten years.
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