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Old 10-11-2011, 03:45 PM   #4516
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Veeraphol Sahaprom Vs Toshiaki Nishioka I

SAHAPROM: 2; 3; 6; 7; 10; 12
NISHIOKA: 1; 4; 5; 8; 9; 11;

Sahaprom 114-114 Nishioka

Official: Dalby Shirley 112-116 | judge: Gale E. Van Hoy 112-116 | judge: Marty Denkin 113-115 Result:Sahaprom W UD12

4th round a close one. Patient work from both, but they both up their game in that round.When Nishioka lets his hands go he looks class, but he's in evasive mode for most of the fight after the Thai gets his respect early with his well-timed right hand. A close and competitive fight.

Veeraphol Sahaprom Vs Toshiaki Nishioka II

SAHAPROM: 1; 6; 8; 9; 10;
NISHIOKA: 2; 3; 4; 5; 7; 11; 12

Sahaprom 113-115 Nishioka

Official: Terry Smith 113-116 | judge: Tom Kaczmarek 115-113 | judge: Lou Filippo 114-114 Result: Draw

Another tactical battle this, but with Nishioka letting his hands go more. His left hand, now his primary weapon, is used much more here, whereas in the first fight he seemed unable to get it off much. The 7th round is terrific, with Nishioka hurting Veeraphol, backing him up and letting his hands fly to head and body, but the Thai fires back with his straight right, handing Nishioka flush a few times, before the bigger man lets rip again. The Thai seems to be in trouble, but he reovers well both times and is still in it. Both men cut over the eyes.

The 8th is a big round for Sahaprom, as he gets his timing down and snaps Nishiokas head back with accurate shots with either hand. The Thai bullies him around the ring and in close, and pulls back swiftly to avoid Nishiokas sporadic bursts. Like his fellow countryman Kingpetch (but nowhere near as efficiently) Sahaprom has a sneaky right uppercut he can work in close with a half-clinch. Kingpetch was brilliant at it, Veeraphol, decent at best, but he dominates this round. The 9th was very close, the Thai landing a left hook early, but Nishioka finding room for a short and explosive right uppercut a few times in the round, but getting wider with it towards the end. Sahaprom just did more, and dug in to the body with his right throughout, a very close round.In the Championship rounds I just gave Nishioka the edge, when he threw he upped his pace, Sahaprom still prodded his right hand out but didn't really push hard enough. Could've went either way, another close fight.

Veeraphol Sahaprom Vs Toshiaki Nishioka III

SAHAPROM: 3; 5; 6; 7; 9; 11; 12
NISHIOKA: 1; 2; 4(+1); 8; 10;

Sahaprom 114-113 Nishioka

Official: Mark Green 112-116 | judge: Duane Ford 114-113 | judge: Herbert Minn 115-115 Result: Draw

Nishioka gets sharper and more confident with every fight. Sahaprom deducted one point for low blows in round 4. Yet again, plenty of swing rounds, Nishioka looking sharp early, fading in the middle rounds but getting his second wind as we roll into the Championship rounds. The 11th is a highly competitive round that the Thai jut snatched on my card, though it could've went the other way as well. The basic Thai is consistent with what he does, but when he lets his hands go in the last round he takes it well. Would you believe it, another close contest that either man could've conceivably nicked by a point or two. If Nishioka could maintain his work throughout like the 'champion' could, then his handspeed would give him the clear edge, as it is, he keeps losing out on a definitive win by languishing in punching range.

Veeraphol Sahaprom Vs Toshiaki Nishioka IV

SAHAPROM: 1;3(+1); 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12
NISHIOKA: 2; 4;

Sahaprom 118-109 Nishioka

Official: Gelasio Perez Huerta 109-118 | judge: Dick Flaherty 109-117 | judge: Marty Denkin 110-116 Result: Sahaprom W UD

In the fourth and final clash, Nishioka looks lethargic (never fought at 118lb limit again) and Sahaprom is on form, dishing out a beating and looking class, in fact, probably the best I've seen him so far.

3rd round; WBC headbutt rule At the beginning of the 4th the ref' immediately takes a point off the Thai for the same offence But he clearly won this round and landed at will, so only 10-9 Nishioka. Toshiaki ships a horrible beating in the 6th, which blood obscuring his vision the title holder can't miss with his patented straight right nor uppercuts with both hands in close. Nishioka dosn't land much in return, Sahaprom managed to slip or evade most of what comes back. Veerapol take all the middle rounds, and in the 9th Nishioka finally comes back to life, hammering blows into the Thais midsection. Sahaoprom is too poised, too experienced, and too good at implementing his style on Nishioka; he takes the shots and gets back to his work, battering Nishioka around the ring again and taking the 9th despite Nishiokas efforts and bravery.

The 10th is a truly masterful display from Sahaprom. His punch picking, accuracy and timing sees Nishioka swaying on a few occasions, and his legs really start to look to be deceiving him. But Sahaproms deft head and upper body movement sees this contest go from a competitive fight where one man is doing the better work in each round, to a schooling. Nishioka looks a mess, facially and in terms of his application. Sahaprom is showing his Muay Thai background as well, one thing that has always struck me is his use of the straight right, but here it finally dawns on me why He uses his right hand like most would use a jab, doubling it, and using it to move off and shoot his jab as he re-sets and poises to throw his right again. So, whilst he was a straight-up boxer puncher, he also had some unorthodoxy carried over from his days as a Nak Muay.

The right hands get ridiculous in the 11th. We all know it's the best shot against a southpaw, and I've already stressed many times how useful Veerapol makes his, but quadrupuling it? Seriously, this is like the record for most right hands landed on a southpaw in a four fight series, and it was getting stupid after three fights. Nishioka can't land anything, and is getting pummelled.

Sahaprom takes it easy on Nishioka in the final round, but even letting his opponent wing away he still wins it He picks Nishioka up and takes him back to his corner, and after their epic series it was nice to see, but this fight showed once and for all who was the better man IMO.

What concerns me is that Nishioka is still defensively open. Sure, he's more refined and comfortable at 122lbs, but although Sahaprom was very good at what he did, he was a basic fighter and Nishioka, the bigger man with good advantages at height and reach, still didn't realise that by standing just inside mid-range he was going to get hit. A lot.

In four fights. And he still hasn't done much about it now
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:58 PM   #4517
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Veerapol Sahaprom Vs Hozumi Hasegawa I

SAHAPROM: 6; 7; 8;
HASEGAWA: 1; 2; 3; 4; 5; 9; 10; 11; 12

Sahaprom 111-117 Hasegawa

Only seen the second fight between these two before, in which Hozumi brutally lays waste to Sahaprom. Hozumi shows Toshiaki how it's done, putting on a punch perfect performance for the first five rounds, putting together combinations, counter punching and lateral movement together to completely stifle the champions patient style. In the 6th, Veerapol shows his experience, shading the inside battle with his faster and younger foe by shipping less and craftily landing more, to head and body, and Hasegawa was more style than substance in this round for the first time in the fight.

You see urgency from the Thai after that, which you rarely see. He relentlessly stalks Hasegawa in the 7th, showing more punch variety than he would usually in unloading the kitchen sink at a tiring Hasegawa, who is finding it harder to stay out of range, although he fires back admirably. Close round, and I was skinning up for the firt 30 seconds so wasn't completely concentrating. I gave it to Sahaprom from what I saw. In the 8th, Hasegawa just about lands more punches, but Sahaprom lands the far more authoritative shots, and really gets the distance of his right hand in this round. Hasegawa throws a couple of desperation lows blows in this round as well, blatant ones, near the knees.

The 10th is an absolutely brilliant round! Hasegawa breaks into the Kamikaze style we love him for, swarming all over Sahaprom and staggering him. The champ tries to fight back, bu it's a clear Hasegawa round, as he really seems to get his second wind back in him. The 11th; another good round. Last 30 seconds they both abandon all thought of tactics and swing away! Quality stuff.

Good stuff from Hasegawa as the Thai finally loses his belt. Considering the opponent and context, a career-best performance from Hasegawa IMO, although the aforementioned rematch stoppage of Sahaprom was also very impressive.

Hozumi came into his own after this bout, I'm glad I got round to this fight.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:25 PM   #4518
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Rafael Marquez vs Heriberto Ruiz

Hardly a punch thrown for the best part of 3 rounds and then out of nowhere Marquez takes him out with one punch, clinical.

No need to count

KO about 9.05

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Old 10-13-2011, 04:19 PM   #4519
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Jhonny Gonzalez Vs Gerry Penelosa

Had only seen the stoppage before, but this is a good fight between two lower weight stand outs. Penelosa, a crafty and nails veteran, Vs Gonzalez, the vulnerable puncher.

GONZALEZ: 2; 3; 4; 5; 6;
PENELOSA: 1;

After a slow start, Gonzalez manages to land the snappier shots and outwork a game and patient Penelosa, already looking for the left to the body. All the rounds are close and competitive, but Penelosa is just following Gonzalez around and being outworked by a more eye catching fighter. Gonzalez digs in late as well, so scoring rounds for him is pretty easy here.

With Gonzalez winning all the rounds after the first on my card, employing lateral movement and throwing in bursts, Penelosa catches him with a left hand counter to the body, which is the only punch he's really been looking for in the fight, and all of Jhonnys energy leaves him.

Penelosa KO7 Gonzalez

Vic Darchinyan Vs Yonnhy Perez

Vic back to his brutal best. Perez looking finished as a top level fighter. Perez has always looked seriously tough, but he got tentative after getting caught early, but to his credit absorbs a beating from Vics heavy hands. I love Darchinyan, he always comes in with the intention of smashing his opponent to bits. He scores a knockdown in the second with a counter left uppercut, and Perez, usually able to keep pace and swing it, is reduced to suggesting punches, and Vic walks him down. In the 3rd, Perez has some more success with a winging right hand, but that game is Vics and he surges again in the second half of the round.

A bad clash of heads ends it in the sixth, with Vic winning a UD. I had him winning every round as well, this was a drubbing. Whether this was the weight, too many tough fights in a row against top opposition or the fact he tasted Vics power early and didn't like it I don't know, but Perez looked washed-up.

Big kudos to Vic though, he can't blast these guys out like he did at the lower weights, but he's as vicious and awkward as ever.

Vic Darchinyan Vs Tomas Rojas

I didn't think I'd seen this before, but I think I might be more familiar with Gusano than I first thought, as I remember this, and have always thought it was against some journeyman (probably just glanced at Rojas' record before it). Not a bad showing from him, but devastating from Darchinyan. Rojas took the first well, landing a lovely left hand counter early and outmanouvering Vic until the end, when he came to life and cracked Gusano hard. Again, Rojas doing well in the 2nd, bossing the fight and knocking Vic back with his long, winged shots. Then, right near the end, Vic crabs him into the ropes, swings like a madman, and Gusano ducks right into, falling hard through the ropes and wasted.

Darchinyan KO2 Rojas
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Darchinyan/Perez is one of the beatdowns of the year so far, for me. Stood out alongside Wolak/Foreman in terms of one sided drubbings.
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:49 PM   #4521
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Whitaker vs Roger Mayweather.

I hadn't seen this fight for years but it was extremely enjoyable. Good little brawl which was a lot closer than the lop-sided points decision suggested.
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:57 PM   #4522
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Yep, good fight that, and you have an ATG username
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Dude is a new cunt.

Thoughts on Sahaprom? Never the no.1 118lber, and pretty basic, but would you agree that what he did, he did well?

And of Chitalada? He seems to think he's slicker than he actually is, to me anyway.

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Thoughts on Sahaprom? Never the no.1 118lber, and pretty basic, but would you agree that what he did, he did well?

And of Chitalada? He seems to think he's slicker than he actually is, to me anyway.
I thought Sahaprom was one of the prototypes for the Thai boxer. Very, very well schooled and organised with everything he did. Just a consumate technician. He'd have handled himself very well with any Bantamweight since he started out.

Chitalada was very impressive when on form I thought, he was just a typical lazy asshole. This is one of his better performances. You've probably seen it, but if not, enjoy.

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Yeah, seen that one. His jab was a ****in' weapon! Seen his fight some Jap' where he actually drops him with his jab.

Lazy, or probably suffering with big weight cuts?

I agree with Sahaprom, post-Konadu really tightened up his game. His right hand was a brilliant weapon, used it like a jab, and once he found his range with it was unshiftable.

Best 118lber you could envision him beating? And the same for Sot, in terms of Flyweights?
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