British Forum BETTING thread

[LHL]

Originally Posted by kosaros

Stop picking on one of the greatest Hungarian boxers of all time!

I think its safe to say he is somewhere between 2-5

[djoc175]

Question for people

Over 9.5 rounds

Does that mean 9 completed rounds and 90 secs??

[PrideOfWales]

Saturday: Wales vs Argentina, Cardiff - Rugby Union

Wales are struggling. Injuries and loss of form of key players has seen the team play poorly in their two Autumn internationals.

Argentina's biggest strength is their tight forward play.
Wales' weakness is their tight forward play.

Wales currently have a rookie loose head playing tight head.
Argentina have some of the best scrummaging monsters in the business.

Wales have Jon Davies in the centre partnered by Jamie Roberts - very one dimensional.

Wales have James Hook playing out of position and looks shaky against the high ball.
Wales have two other "small" players in the back three.
Argentina kick a lot of balls high in the air.

Wales are quite a small team.
Argentina are big brutes who like to bully.

Wales are without a big strong scrum-half (Mike Phillips) to fend for himself at the break-down.
Argentina will use dirty tricks to slow ball down and frustrate stand-in Gareth Cooper.

i.e. The Argies are a pretty good bet to win on Saturday. To be safe, I'd look at the handicap as the odds are bound to favour Wales. I'll look at the odds and bookmakers later but if the Argies are given more than 5/6 points, I'll be on this in a big way.

[Beeston Brawler]

One thing I don't understand PoW is the selection of Gareth Cooper above Dwayne Peel at scrum half - especially against a team like Argentina.

They weren't great against England last week, the #9 played really well as did the #6 and the loosehead Roncero, but in the backs they still huff and puff without Contepomi to make them tick - that doesn't tend to matter against England because our backs are equally bad (if not worse) but the Welsh backs are genuinely international class players - despite being pretty lightweight.

What do you think to England vs the All Blacks?

They were off-colour against Wales and crap against Italy, I felt - are they going to click into gear and give England a hiding or chug to a ten point win?

Either way, Rob Andrew has got to go as head of the RFU's ''director of elite rugby'' - there is nothing elite about anything to do with the England team right now

[Beeston Brawler]

Spain
Germany
Holland
Italy

£2 accumulator, £0.50 on each individual game.

£4 = £18 inc stake.

[PrideOfWales]

Originally Posted by Beeston Brawler

One thing I don't understand PoW is the selection of Gareth Cooper above Dwayne Peel at scrum half - especially against a team like Argentina.

They weren't great against England last week, the #9 played really well as did the #6 and the loosehead Roncero, but in the backs they still huff and puff without Contepomi to make them tick - that doesn't tend to matter against England because our backs are equally bad (if not worse) but the Welsh backs are genuinely international class players - despite being pretty lightweight.

What do you think to England vs the All Blacks?

They were off-colour against Wales and crap against Italy, I felt - are they going to click into gear and give England a hiding or chug to a ten point win?

Either way, Rob Andrew has got to go as head of the RFU's ''director of elite rugby'' - there is nothing elite about anything to do with the England team right now

I think NZ have only really been in 2nd gear... they've got a lot more in the tank but can't really see them giving it their all this weekend. They're trying different combinations and there's no Rockocoko or a Howlett to worry about. NZ used to seem unbeatable because they had finishers... real world class guys that will more often than not score from half chances. But they have "solid" players on the wings. I think they'll probably beat the English but I think they'll limp to a 8 point win. There or there abouts. England have stuff to prove and will be in the game for a while.

Peel is not playing because he plays for an English club and doesn't get released for training sessions etc... He'll be back in Wales next year but he's lost his speed of pass, tap and go and hasn't been that impressive since he was ousted by Mike Phillips. Peel or Cooper - doesn't really matter against Argentina - Phillips is the guy you'd pick 10 times out of 10 against physical teams like them, Italy and the South Sea Islanders. An on-form Peel would be great against the likes of France or on the bench when the game breaks up and we need to release the back line quickly.

Ideally, England play OK but still lose by a couple of points so that the coaching team and Andrew stay for at least the 6 Nations!

[PrideOfWales]

Basically, bwin are are offering you evens on Argentina +7.5

If you can get that, or more, it'll be good for your accumulators.

[Beeston Brawler]

Appointing Rob Andrew has been an unqualified disaster.

A guy with a distinctly average coaching record - generally finishing near the bottom with Newcastle - is appoined basically top dog at the RFU..... who has he caught shagging someone they shouldn't have been?

[Dan684]

Anybody know if odds for Hatton/Marquez are out yet ? Fancy a little punt on fatty if it's a catchweight

[TFFP]

Anybody notice on oddschecker Vitali is 4/9 to beat Haye?

[PrideOfWales]

Originally Posted by Beeston Brawler

Appointing Rob Andrew has been an unqualified disaster.

A guy with a distinctly average coaching record - generally finishing near the bottom with Newcastle - is appoined basically top dog at the RFU..... who has he caught shagging someone they shouldn't have been?

Will Carling was right many moons ago when he said that the RFU was full of old dinosaurs... it still is.

They're the kind of old fuddy duddies who liked watching Andrew play because he was a reliable old stalwart who never rocked the boat. He was a "good ambassador" for English rugby.

Jonny Wilkinson will be involved straight after retiring, mark my words.

[JonOli]

Originally Posted by TFFP

Anybody notice on oddschecker Vitali is 4/9 to beat Haye?

What's wrong with that?

[TFFP]

Originally Posted by JonOli

What's wrong with that?

4/9 are you ****ing serious? That is a great price. Bookies got carried away.

[Beeston Brawler]

Originally Posted by PrideOfWales

Will Carling was right many moons ago when he said that the RFU was full of old dinosaurs... it still is.

They're the kind of old fuddy duddies who liked watching Andrew play because he was a reliable old stalwart who never rocked the boat. He was a "good ambassador" for English rugby.

Jonny Wilkinson will be involved straight after retiring, mark my words.

I aren't (and never was) a Carling fan - either as a man or as a player.... but he certainly was 100% right in that instance.

Andrew has always come across to me as a bumsniffer, the sort who will do whatever it takes to get into the top position..... Stuart Barnes was a better player than him, as was Grayson from about '94 onwards, never mind other guys being better coaches - can't be bothered naming them, there are that many

Removing Brian Ashton was a shocking call. Granted, some of the rugby we played (barring the semi against France and to a lesser extent the final) was awful, it was necessary with the players at his disposal to succeed - and succeed they did.

[JonOli]

Originally Posted by TFFP

4/9 are you ****ing serious? That is a great price. Bookies got carried away.

Fair enough, I thought you thought it too short.

Hopefully be around 1/2+ on BF (if it happens), I may have some of that. : )