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Old 09-07-2010, 11:44 AM   #6061
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If you want bit smaller odds:

Ferrer to win at bet365: 2.20

Lay Ferrer at betfair: 2.24
So...

86.25 @ Bet365 wins 103.50

Lay 86.64 @ Betfair risks 107.44

Profit/Loss = -3.94

Does that seem the correct way to do it? Why does the calculator tell me to put 86.64?

I could take losing 4 quid of the 25.
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Old 09-07-2010, 11:53 AM   #6062
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Ah, I think I understand. It's so I lose the same for whatever outcome.
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:04 PM   #6063
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Ah, I think I understand. It's so I lose the same for whatever outcome.
Sorry Wires crossed basically what I do is for instance WillHill place 25 on the phone get a free 50 bet so I put 25 on United to beat Toon few weeks back at 1.25, I then layed them for 1.24 on Betfair so I have both outcomes covererd, so I am either winning or loosing 25p if United win or don't win.

They won so I was 25p up now I have a free 50 bet so now to get the biggest percentage of this 50 ( like I say I like to aim at 70% plus I look for big odds around 5 or 6/1 to maxamise this, you do exactly the same as the qualifying bet back then lay an outcome covering all results with similar odds but you don't place the same money there is a calculater that works this out for you.


Here it is

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So for this one I am now placing 50 free bet so say I have backed Djokovic to win the Us open at Wills for 5/1 I have layed him same price at Betfair:

You are recommended to lay against a stake of 50.25 in your betting exchange.
The amount of money you'll need in your lay account to cover the risk is 251.26
If you win the backed bet and hence lose the lay you will receive 48.74
If you lose the backed bet and hence win the lay you will receive 48.74

This is what the calculater told me to do....

So without risking anything other than human error I am 48.74 up for basically no risk only think u need is a nice bankroll to cover the lay in the betfair account, i Have spreadsheets on all of this with bookies and there bonus offers, like I say with new accounts you can make easily 2k off this maybe a little more.
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:06 PM   #6064
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Sorry Wires crossed basically what I do is for instance WillHill place 25 on the phone get a free 50 bet so I put 25 on United to beat Toon few weeks back at 1.25, I then layed them for 1.24 on Betfair so I have both outcomes covererd, so I am either winning or loosing 25p if United win or don't win.

They won so I was 25p up now I have a free 50 bet so now to get the biggest percentage of this 50 ( like I say I like to aim at 70% plus I look for big odds around 5 or 6/1 to maxamise this, you do exactly the same as the qualifying bet back then lay an outcome covering all results with similar odds but you don't place the same money there is a calculater that works this out for you.


Here it is

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

So for this one I am now placing 50 free bet so say I have backed Djokovic to win the Us open at Wills for 5/1 I have layed him same price at Betfair:

You are recommended to lay against a stake of 50.25 in your betting exchange.
The amount of money you'll need in your lay account to cover the risk is 251.26
If you win the backed bet and hence lose the lay you will receive 48.74
If you lose the backed bet and hence win the lay you will receive 48.74

This is what the calculater told me to do....

So without risking anything other than human error I am 48.74 up for basically no risk only think u need is a nice bankroll to cover the lay in the betfair account, i Have spreadsheets on all of this with bookies and there bonus offers, like I say with new accounts you can make easily 2k off this maybe a little more.
I understand the concept now. Good idea!

I've done it now anyway. Seems I could have done better odds wise if I'd looked longer but Ferrer/Verdasco it is. I'm too impatient to wait and wanted to do it tonight

2.2/2.24 can't be too bad. I'm gonna lose 3.94 of the bonus due to commission on Betfair and the size of the stakes more than the odds.
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:11 PM   #6065
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I understand the concept now. Good idea!

I've done it now anyway. Seems I could have done better odds wise if I'd looked longer but Ferrer/Verdasco it is. I'm too impatient to wait and wanted to do it tonight

2.2/2.24 can't be too bad. I'm gonna lose 3.94 of the bonus due to commission on Betfair and the size of the stakes more than the odds.

Not to bad then mate. Who you see winning in todays matches?
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:27 PM   #6066
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Tough one...Verdasco would win if he's 90% on it because he has a better game compared to the one dimensional Ferrer but you never know with him, I've seen him play great matches and then look completely woeful, I remember him having one of the worst matches I've ever seen last year at the US Open. The unforced errors and double faults were off the charts. One tough thing is these two havn't really got a hard court meeting worth talking about, the last was 2004 which is meaningless. I see us having a great indication of how this match will go after 8 games just by seeing how Verdasco starts because its more in his hands than Ferrer.

At least you know what you get from Ferrer and for 6/5 I think he's not a bad pick in that respect. I think Ferrer and over 39.5 games are reasonable bets because the margins in this are so small its a really difficult prediction to make so the value is there to bet Ferrer.

Querrey to beat Wawrinka.
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:32 PM   #6067
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Over 1.5 tie breaks in Querrey/Wawrinka could be quite a canny bet depending if the odds are juicy.

Good first serves, Querrey not the strongest of return games.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:20 PM   #6068
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England @ 4/11 - Draw No Bet - Switzerland v England

Scotland @ 4/5 - To Win Both Halves - Scotland v Liechtenstein

Under 4.5 Goals @ 1/2 - Over/Under 4.5 Goals - Ireland v Andorra


Anyone else had a bet on tonight's internationals.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:39 PM   #6069
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England @ 4/11 - Draw No Bet - Switzerland v England


England are a limited counter attacking unit, they cannot beat the Swiss without a huge slice of luck.

I would want 8/1.

Defore and Walcott will have no input in tonight proceedings, it is all down to Ashly Cole to join in with the attacks really.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:59 PM   #6070
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FFS Walcott fouled the defender which allowed Rooney to get the ball.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:03 PM   #6071
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England are a limited counter attacking unit, they cannot beat the Swiss without a huge slice of luck.

I would want 8/1.

Defore and Walcott will have no input in tonight proceedings, it is all down to Ashly Cole to join in with the attacks really.

Yes. Ok sport..
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:05 PM   #6072
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Go on Querry you legend!! Breaks back when looking like going 2 down!!
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Over 1.5 tie breaks in Querrey/Wawrinka could be quite a canny bet depending if the odds are juicy.

Good first serves, Querrey not the strongest of return games.
Don't **** with this man 2 sets completed 2 tie breaks .
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:37 PM   #6074
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Just been looking at the football for the weekend and Newcastle are 6/4 (-1 handicap) at home against blackpool. Last season the same fixture ended 4 -1 to the Toon and we all know that Blackpool are a worse team than last year.

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Old 09-07-2010, 03:44 PM   #6075
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Yes. Ok sport..
I would want evens now, the Swiss have to be favourites to get the next goal.
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