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Old 03-07-2009, 11:11 AM   #1
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does any one know about kerry kayes workout plans for boxers and the diets he uses for them?
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:51 AM   #2
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I dont, but he does an amazing job with Hatton between fights. I am interested as well.
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:13 PM   #3
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I don't know about his diet, but a large part of his stregth workouts revolve around naultilus type machines. Imo, nautilus machines serve no purpose for a fighter, I always advocate the use of free weights, especially d/bells for their unilateral benefits. At the end of the day though, KK is a top coach, i'm not, so what do I know!!

In Hatton's case, most of the benefits actually come from his work ethic. I have spoken to a few highly regarded trainers about Hatton, and they all say that Hatton is an absolute animal in the gym, few can match his intensity.
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:23 PM   #4
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i have heard Kayes rountines are prety bad for a boxer
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:57 PM   #5
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i have been able to improve my speed over the last few months should i be lifting weights to become stronger or will that make me slower?
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Old 03-07-2009, 01:59 PM   #6
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i have been able to improve my speed over the last few months should i be lifting weights to become stronger or will that make me slower?
If you lift weights correctly they can help with speed and strength.
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Old 03-07-2009, 04:17 PM   #7
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do you have a workout that can help this?
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:45 PM   #8
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i have been able to improve my speed over the last few months should i be lifting weights to become stronger or will that make me slower?

Don't focus one one aspect of training, if you do this, other areas will suffer. You need to work several different facets to facilitate the best gains.

Try something like:

Pre workout - Joint rotations followed by light skipping followed by dynamic strecthing.

Post workout - warm down with a light jog/walk. Perform static/isometric stretches 3-4 hours later.

Mon - Interval conditioning workout (db swings, burpees, med ball slams etc)
Tues - Roadwork (start with long intervals, ie 800m jog + 50m sprint, repeat 4 times)
Wed - Strength (focus on full body movements such as squats, cleans, overhead presses etc)
Thurs - General conditioning (high reps of pushups, b/w squats, tuck jumps etc)

Fri, Sat, Sun - Active recovery (light jog, walking, swimming etc, view this as a recovery, not a workout)

Stick to that type of plan and you won't go far wrong.

Regarding speed - you will find that in the main, speed is a byproduct of good technique. As your form improves, you will get faster. From a phsical standpoint, exchange your max strength workout for an explosive strength workout. Things like clap pushups, powerovers, squat jumps, basically all plyometric exercises will help your speed from a physical aspect. A word of caution however - Do not train with plyometrics until you have a good base strength level as you will do yourself a serious injury.
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Old 03-08-2009, 01:18 AM   #9
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He sucks. I saw footage of him having hatton do millions of calf raises and tricep curls. FAIL!
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Old 03-08-2009, 01:30 PM   #10
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We had this discussion a while ago on his workout routine/diet.

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Old 03-08-2009, 04:08 PM   #11
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We unanimously declared him the suck. Well not quite unanimous but close enough.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:30 PM   #12
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Even Hatton's saying that he's recovered speed that he lost through doing Kaye's workouts. The weights were slowing him down.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:31 PM   #13
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should i do light weight high reps then? Jamie moore said it has helped him
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:21 PM   #14
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should i do light weight high reps then? Jamie moore said it has helped him
Mix it up mate. To explain things basically, you need a certain level of max strength to elicit good gains from a speed strength routine. Without seeing you in person, I can't say what level you are currently at, so I can't give you an exact routine. What I can say is that if yot stick to low reps you will get seriously strong, and you won't gain a great deal of speed. Alternatively, if you train solely for speed, you may well get fast but you won't have any power. A good boxer needs to be both strong and fast, and a whole lot more for that matter. Follow the template that I laid out for you above and you will get fitter, faster, stronger and more agile.
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I'm happy doing heavy lifting once a week, at the moment something like squatts, bench press, deadlifts, shoulder press, wide and close grip chin ups and tricep dips. When I was lifting 3 or 4 times a week and doing more of the isolation type excersizes the way a bodybuilder would, I just felt with boxing 3 times a week as well as running about 30 miles a week that I was over training and got injuries after a couple of months of that. We do bodyweight excersizes and medicine ball work at the boxing gym anyway so I don't think there's any real need for more than that. Once a week makes most sense for me.
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