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Old 08-16-2007, 10:22 PM   #1
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A question about Pernell Whitaker And Azumah Nelson's fight.
First of all was it a good fight, entertaining?
Also was Azumah regarded as a big threat to pernell, didnt azumah only have one loss.
Any info would be good thanks.

Also i saw the junior jones and kennedy mkinney fight.
It was a good fight.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:59 PM   #2
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I thought it was entertaining but then i also think most of Hopkins and Winky´s fights are entertaining which not that many people agree with.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:32 PM   #3
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It was beautiful boxing exhibition by Pernell.Nelson won maybe 3 rounds at most.Sweet Pea pretty much dominated the entire bout with his jab and stepping around Nelson.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:48 PM   #4
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Whitaker was at his sublime best against Nelson. He fought very intelligently as Nelson was known as a heavy handed super-featherweight. Whitaker kept his distance and popped out razor sharp jabs while Nelson forced his way forward. While Whitaker was on the move for more or less the entire fight, he stood his ground and went downstairs with bursts of punches. Even while backing up in a straight line to keep distance, Whitaker scored beautifully. Their was a moment during the fight when Whitaker moved back in a straight line and cracked three jabs in succession right threw Nelson's guard. Awareness and anticipation are crucial for any defensive master. One of the early rounds. Whitaker backed himself into a corner near the ropes, and he seemed to programme Nelson's next moves into his mind. He ducked a few inches, sagged into ropes, and covered up and protected himself with his gloves. Miliseconds later, Nelson's volley of punches never scored. Most missed the target, with Whitaker blocking the last punch.

Quite simply pure defensive boxing at its very best.


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Old 08-16-2007, 11:52 PM   #5
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he also scored with a behind the back punch which was not damageing but it was slick and prolly hurt nelsons spirit a bit
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:00 AM   #6
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This was the fight that convinced me (finally; I didn't want to believe it) that Whitaker wasn't going to be beaten any time soon. Complete mastery.

Not a great action fight, if that's what you mean. Pretty one-sided, and only Whitaker landed anything. I gave Nelson only one round, the 11th, as I recall.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:09 AM   #7
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Whitaker mostly in control, although Azumah put in a game effort. But whitaker was simply too damn good at that point with his head movement, angles, footwork, quick punches and solid condition.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:25 AM   #8
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Azumah Nelson on Pernell Whitaker - "What can I say? He's a great fighter."
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:06 PM   #9
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Whitaker was poetry in motion.
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Old 08-18-2007, 08:16 AM   #10
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I got the impression Azumah was only there for the paid day and did not think he could win....

Although I should give him the benefit of the doubt and Whitaker, if drug free was rather brilliant at that time.
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:14 PM   #12
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I got the impression Azumah was only there for the paid day and did not think he could win....

Although I should give him the benefit of the doubt and Whitaker, if drug free was rather brilliant at that time.
Azumah Nelson was talking at the time about moving up and fighting welterweights, he was one of the MOST confident fighters ever. I think he did believe he could win, and he pressed incredibly hard in the second half of the fight in particular, having Whitaker retreat more than what the likes of Chavez had him retreat. It's not like he gave up once he saw he was overmatched.

As for the drug thing, I've yet to see a credible report which suggests that cocaine or crack is performance enhancing.
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Azumah Nelson was talking at the time about moving up and fighting welterweights, he was one of the MOST confident fighters ever. I think he did believe he could win, and he pressed incredibly hard in the second half of the fight in particular, having Whitaker retreat more than what the likes of Chavez had him retreat. It's not like he gave up once he saw he was overmatched.

As for the drug thing, I've yet to see a credible report which suggests that cocaine or crack is performance enhancing.
Like I said, Nelson just seemed to me to go though the motions, and I hope Whitaker was not on drugs then, because if it is shown he was, it is a massive black eye for his career.
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Like I said, Nelson just seemed to me to go though the motions, and I hope Whitaker was not on drugs then, because if it is shown he was, it is a massive black eye for his career.
I believe Whitaker got into coke in a serious way between 1997 and 1999, and after of course. It wasn't until he fought Trinidad that he looked shot. He was past his prime the night he fought De La Hoya, but was nowhere near shot.

When he was up against Trinidad, he stood and fought flat-footed with a murderous puncher. He never had any option because his co-ordination and reflexes had clearly evaporated.

Why did he look very good sharing a ring with De La Hoya fighting his normal kind of slick defensive fight, then in the next fight went against his own textbook and fought Trinidad wrecklessly and looked a shadow of himself?. Inactivity, serious coke abuse, and he had aged by another 2 years.
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Old 08-18-2007, 08:51 PM   #15
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A peak Sweat Pea made a great fighter in Nelson look so average that you just knew there was nothing Azumah was going to be able to do as Pernell pasted him rd after rd. Whitaker was on a roll during this stretch of his career and it was if he was untouchable. I recall in the later rds of the Whitaker vs Haugen fight, Greg Haughen standing in his corner trying to lure Pea into “his fight” by shouting “Pus_ _!” “Pus_ _!” and Pea was just smiling back in total control, oh man so funny!
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