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Old 08-17-2007, 07:16 PM   #1
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Mexican greats?

Was he better than Barrerra and Sanchez?
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:17 PM   #2
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Chavez was the best in my book.No doubt about it either.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:00 PM   #3
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I'm starting to see the light about Chavez now. I would have liked to see him face my man Camacho around mid 80's and I still think he'd give him major fits but Julio has to be given a chance.

In my book Hector was the only opponent that would count for Chavez, not guys like DLH or Pernell even tho Pernell was a pretty decent fighter in his own right.

but who's to say he couldn't get Hector in trouble and take control? He would if he put enough pressure on. I saw Williams, a fighter from south america back Hector up so in a 15 round I think Chavez has a chance.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:49 PM   #4
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Chavez is what Sanchez would've become more or less.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:58 PM   #5
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Understatement of the week.
He ain't no macho man!
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:47 PM   #6
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Best fighter ever out of Mexico, absolutely.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:12 AM   #7
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What about Sanchez, Sanchez? he won every big match he was ever in.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:21 AM   #8
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What about Sanchez, Sanchez? he won every big match he was ever in.

...............Nope; longevity means a lot, and Chavez has that over Sanchez in spades. Sanchez was great, but Chavez was greater.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:27 AM   #9
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He ain't no macho man!
didn't mean to offend. I thought Hector would have been his big test in the 80's but I guess we'll have to settle for Rosario.

BTW, I will try to get my videos posted on tube next week. I'm dying to put on Leonard on.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:56 AM   #10
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Chavez=Mexico's greatest fighter
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:31 AM   #11
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He was the best Mexican ever IMO:

10 Erik Morales
9 Vicente Saldivar
8 Lupe Pintor
7 Salvador Sanchez
6 Marco Antonio Barrera
5 Jose Napoles (Adopted Mexico as his own country; Cuban by birth)
4 Ricardo Lopez
3 Ruben Olivares
2 Carlos Zarate
1 Julio Cesar Chavez

Mentions to: Humberto Gonzales, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Martinez, Alfonso Zamora, Daniel Zaragoza, Joe Rivers, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Manuel Medina, Rafael Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Jose Luis Castillo.


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Old 08-18-2007, 08:51 AM   #12
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1st or 2nd (with Sanchez). Not including defected Cubans.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:12 AM   #13
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Chavez has to be the greatest Mexican fighter his achievements surpass Sanchez due to his early passing and the like of Barrea, Morales and Oliveras.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:26 PM   #14
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didn't mean to offend. I thought Hector would have been his big test in the 80's but I guess we'll have to settle for Rosario.

BTW, I will try to get my videos posted on tube next week. I'm dying to put on Leonard on.
I think an 1986 fight between Hector and Julio would have been just about right in terms of timing. Chavez should have made the move up and challenged Hector at 135 instead of fighting weight drained and taking on the likes of Laporte and Lockridge at 130. It's regrettable the fight never got made until as late as it did. Having said that, if Camacho was more disciplined and kept the weight off instead of division jumping just about every year in the mid 80's the fight probably would have been made sooner rather than later.

Good to hear about the youtube fights btw, look forward to seeing some of your prime Camacho stuff.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:08 PM   #15
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Napoles would be number one if you consider him Mexican(i don't).
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