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Old 02-14-2013, 07:27 AM   #31
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Surprised to hear that, Flea.

Briggs was horrible against Liackhovich. No legs at all, no stamina at all.

Briggs of Lewis fight would have been a much beter choice.
I cannot believe anyone who scores a stoppage that late in the fight had no stamina. He was gassed for much of the fight but stuck in there. That's what he'd need to do against the best Douglas, who was sharp in the early going against Tucker and Tyson.

If we were talking the blob Buster that turned up against Holyfield then yes, Briggs of the Lewis fight would be best choice.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:54 AM   #32
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He was gassed for much of the fight but stuck in there. That's what he'd need to do against the best Douglas, who was sharp in the early going against Tucker and Tyson.
I get what you're saying but I just don't think that the strategy of doing nothing and waiting for a 1 big shot for 12 rounds while eating hard punches would be a good idea against an excellent motivated boxer-puncher with good movement and a good jab .
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:46 PM   #33
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Default Re: Prime vs Prime-Buster Douglas vs. Shannon Briggs

Douglas was a fantastic boxer. Briggs was around the fringe level for years and was by and large very consistent.

So do we go for the consistent fringe guy, or the one night superstar?

Prime for prime I take Douglas but in a real life situation Briggs would probably knock him out.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:57 PM   #34
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Default Re: Prime vs Prime-Buster Douglas vs. Shannon Briggs

Thing about Briggs is that he could carry his power later into the fight, so he's not only dangerous early, but he's also capable of doing what he did to White Wolf and chopping him down late if/when Buster gasses.

That said, Douglas had the type of reach and jab to give anyone trouble and probably had enough pop to keep Briggs from initiating an early rounds blitzkrieg (or sustaining it at any rate). And the Tokyo version of Buster is probably focused enough to keep his cool when Briggs makes his last ditch effort at a KO.

Douglas UD (8-4 over 12)
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:28 PM   #35
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That IS the thing about being that huge. It'll tire you out early, but you'll kick your power late if you keep your form.

Briggs shouldn't have tried to finish Sergei early.

Tokyo Douglas showed up in tremendous shape, and would have bitten off his left pinky to win. That guy is gonna be hard to stop.

Most occassions, though, he'd show up damn near 300 pounds, fight with his hands at his waist, wiping his face with his right hand every 10 seconds, and he'd get his clock cleaned.

Prime for Prime, Douglas. Actuality, Briggs by early KO. He'd have no trouble doing what Holyfield did.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:38 PM   #36
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My gut tells me Briggs would get rid of him early. I just don't believe that Douglas was an atg for one night. I do believe he was a fighter with chin and heart issues. btw Briggs has more early round knockouts than almost anyone, impressive even against questionable opposition.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:40 PM   #37
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I get what you're saying but I just don't think that the strategy of doing nothing and waiting for a 1 big shot for 12 rounds while eating hard punches would be a good idea against an excellent motivated boxer-puncher with good movement and a good jab .
That's not quite what happened. He damn near took out the White Wolf early, and outboxed him in the middle rounds.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:54 PM   #38
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Douglas. Botha beat the hell out of prime Briggs.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:24 PM   #39
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Douglas. Botha beat the hell out of prime Briggs.
Over the last round and a half, and in the seventh, yeah. But, unlike a lot of observers, I thought a draw in that fight was a fair result. Briggs banked a few of the early rounds, and had Botha on the deck and in a bad way in the eighth.

Hell of a fight, that. And it's enough to convince me that even the best version of Douglas has to be on his game at all times against Briggs, who was dangerous from bell to bell.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:53 AM   #40
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Douglas fought and beat much better fighters than Briggs... I think the skill level is in favor of Buster and he beats Shannon UD or lumps his face up to a TKO.. Buster gets a bad rap sometimes but he is definitely a very talented fighter
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Old 02-16-2013, 01:13 AM   #41
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I think I talked to Shannon once.
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:09 AM   #42
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Some great analysis here guys, thanks.
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:42 AM   #43
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Buster needs his mobility and jab, which he had at his best. Put even 20 lbs of flab on him, and the coin flips, imo.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:47 AM   #44
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Douglas wins easy
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