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Old 08-22-2007, 05:04 PM   #31
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I actually spoke to Collazo at Club Plum here in the city he was pretty pissed he didn't press the fight because he was a bit reluctant and respected the Sugar man way to much. Pluse his hand was wrapped up at the time (It was a couple weeks after the fight) he also blamed his disfigured thumb. I don't like excuses though, Collazo lost fair and square and the Sugar man showed he still got it. I have a good feeling Cotto will make the fight a bit harder than Collazo did

But poor Cotto is going to be dispatched sometime before mid fight(according to trouble that is)
I'm glad you posted this. It spared me the trouble of pointing out that Mosely won a decsion against an injured, B level fighter. Everyone who saw that fight saw that Collazo wasn't throwing punches. Cotto is on alot of people's p4p top 10 list. There is no way he should lose to a 36 year old, past prime fighter
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:05 PM   #32
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I'm glad you posted this. It spared me the trouble of pointing out that Mosely won a decsion against an injured, B level fighter. Everyone who saw that fight saw that Collazo wasn't throwing punches. Cotto is on alot of people's p4p top 10 list. There is no way he should lose to a 36 year old, past prime fighter
Cotto and Mosley are top 10-15.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:06 PM   #33
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Catching a tan and sleeping with Mob bosses daughters dosent make you from a place.....

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They train here. Period. No they were not all born here which I guess = from here. My deepest apologies.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:09 PM   #34
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Collazo would beg to differ.
Collazo is no Cotto. Cotto will break Mosley down physically and mentally.

Thing ive noticed about Mosley (keep in mind im a big Mosley fan)

Mosley doesnt know how to change his strategy if things arent going his way. It happened in both Forrest and Wright fights. If he gets discouraged, his corner acts foolish and Mosley doesnt adapt. The only time Mosley showed this trait was against DLH 7 years ago.

If things dont go his way against Cotto expect him to keep catching a beat down until Papa Jack throws in the white towel.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:09 PM   #35
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I'm glad you posted this. It spared me the trouble of pointing out that Mosely won a decsion against an injured, B level fighter. Everyone who saw that fight saw that Collazo wasn't throwing punches. Cotto is on alot of people's p4p top 10 list. There is no way he should lose to a 36 year old, past prime fighter
B level fighter that many thought won the fight against Hatton. Injured hand or not, Collazo was outclassed that night in every department. But I guess that's what Mosley should do to a B level fighter, Right?
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:09 PM   #36
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Thanks for the insight.

This is still a 50/50 type fight.

Don't get me wrong.
I agree 50/50

Collazo is always in the club man, I don't go out much anymore but I've spoken to this lush at least 3 times in the past year of so, he's a very cool dude though, unlike Zab who get's real irritating at times when he's squirting his testosterone all over the club. Paulie Malanaggi was also extremely friendly and spoke boxing for at least 20 minutes with me at club Stereo in Manhattan. Honorable mention: Curtis Stevens, spoke for a bit outside Manhattan Center/Hamerstein Ballroom.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:10 PM   #37
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The one thing most people forget is that Cotto had been rocked and stunned by Corley, Abdulaev, Torres and Judah. If there is a fighter who could finish him off and hurt him again it would be Sugar Shane.

Dude dont underestimate a real fighter so quickly
but i have it 60/40 mosley
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Originally my take on the upcoming fight was this...Mosley will start off strong sweeping the first 5 or 6 rds. Then Cotto would come on strong after that to make it a close fight to the finish. Mosley would weather the storm and win a close UD.


After watching more video on Cotto...Mosley is going to whip this dudes ass possibly stopping him in the process. Yes, Cotto applies constant pressure. Yes, Cotto has good power and works the body well. IMHO though, Cotto has a very ABC style that Mosley will exploit in a big way. His chin is exposed too much and too often. Mosley will test that chin several times throughout the fight. Cotto has been on rubber legs in the past and when was the last time you saw Shane have a fighter on queer street and not finish him off?
Just wanted to go on the record and change my pick to Mosley by KO. flame away...
I'm a fan of both fighters, but even a faded Mosely is a terrible styles match-up for Cotto.

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Old 08-22-2007, 05:12 PM   #39
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The one thing most people forget is that Cotto had been rocked and stunned by Corley, Abdulaev, Torres and Judah. If there is a fighter who could finish him off and hurt him again it would be Sugar Shane.
People forget? Thats the argument most fans use as to why Cotto is going to lose his next fight for the past 3 years now. But last time I checked Cotto is still undefeated.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:13 PM   #40
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I'm glad you posted this. It spared me the trouble of pointing out that Mosely won a decsion against an injured, B level fighter. Everyone who saw that fight saw that Collazo wasn't throwing punches. Cotto is on alot of people's p4p top 10 list. There is no way he should lose to a 36 year old, past prime fighter
Well Sugarman still is a live dog no matter how you put it, I'm a huge Cotto fan but I'll be nervous come fight night, similar to a school girl in her first visit to the OBGYN.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:14 PM   #41
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B level fighter that many thought won the fight against Hatton. Injured hand or not, Collazo was outclassed that night in every department. But I guess that's what Mosley should do to a B level fighter, Right?
To an injured B level fighter, yes. Unless you wanna argue that Collazo wasn't injured or that Collazo is an A level fighter. I'm not going to sit here and call Mosely a bum. This is certainly not the case. But he's old, and past his prime. If Cotto is the elite fighter that people make him out to be, then he should be able to beat an old, past his prime fighter, even one on Mosely's level.
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:16 PM   #42
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Well Sugarman still is a live dog no matter how you put it, I'm a huge Cotto fan but I'll be nervous come fight night, similar to a school girl in her first visit to the OBGYN.
No need to be nervous. Although Cotto has been "protected" by his handlers, I still think he's a tremendous fighter. This will be Mosely's last fight.
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Cotto body work will be too much for Mosley
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:20 PM   #44
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No need to be nervous. Although Cotto has been "protected" by his handlers, I still think he's a tremendous fighter. This will be Mosely's last fight.
Ok but I'll wear my diapers under my gap jeans just in case (please do not try to visualize)
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Old 08-22-2007, 05:23 PM   #45
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To an injured B level fighter, yes. Unless you wanna argue that Collazo wasn't injured or that Collazo is an A level fighter. I'm not going to sit here and call Mosely a bum. This is certainly not the case. But he's old, and past his prime. If Cotto is the elite fighter that people make him out to be, then he should be able to beat an old, past his prime fighter, even one on Mosely's level.
Fair enough and I'm not saying Collazo didn't hurt his hand. I just don't think it would have made any difference. The one and only advantage I see Cotto having over Shane is youth. That will not be enough to beat the old vet.
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